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hillsbororiver:
As always thanks for the responses.

Gena, I am definitely seeing this (OT destruction verses) as a renovation project by our Lord with His elect purging the old carnal nature of those who are unconverted, this is a type/shadow of the Lake of Fire.

Check this out;

Isa 19:22  And the LORD shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the LORD, and he shall be entreated of them, and shall heal them.

Smite then heal, destroy then rebuild, kill then raise up, all part of His plan of creation, bringing His Sons and Daughters to His Spiritual Kingdom.

Isn't this death and destruction going on within the chosen even now? Is there not a bloody war going on between our carnal nature and His Spirit?

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

gmik:
yes, definetly a bloody war going on!

You see the renovation clearly since that is what you do! ;D

I love the smite then heal....we are being smitten in this life and the healing for the world will come in the next!!

love,
gena

hillsbororiver:
Hi Gena,

Yes it probably helps quite a bit. All through scripture there are references to building, solid foundations, etc.

Do you think there is a deeper spiritual meaning behind the fact that Jesus' earthly trade was carpentry? Carpenters not only build new things but tear away old rotted structurally unsound wood, replacing it with new, strong and structurally sound material.

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: eggi on January 07, 2007, 06:48:54 PM ---
--- Quote ---This "destruction" so often spoken of in the OT, could the bigger message be that this "destruction" is actually a renovation? That the old inferior carnal flesh is going to be refined, remade, (Lake of Fire) into a new perfect spirit? A Son/Daughter of God?
--- End quote ---

I think you are right, Joe. The future punishment and judgment discussed here will have a redeeming effect, it will be for GOOD.
I believe this is talking about a renovation, in fact the very regeneration mentioned here:

And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Mat 19:28 KJV)

I used to see it as a history book too, therefore I thought it was all passed. Turns out, it gets deeper and deeper.



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Hi Eirik,

Thank you for the addition of the very relevent and appropriate scripture.

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

TimothyVI:
I don't know if this was one of David's psalms or not. It was definitely written by someone
who thought that he was one of God's people and considered it an honor to, for the sake of God,  have judgement and vengeance on anyone that did not follow God.

God proved many times that He did not need man to intervene for Him in the judgement or vengeance department. He was perfectly capable of taking care of things himself.
God wiped out entire cities in a few minutes, and nearly wiped out the entire population of the world in a flood, without anyone
elses  help. So why did He decide to use people to kill people after telling them not to murder.

I will not second guess God's methods but I will say that it was this kind of writing in the scriptures that
encouraged and condoned medeival Christians to happily slaughter thousands and thousands of people simply for not believing in Christ.
Never mind that Jesus did not tell them to do anything like that. Never mind that Jesus said to love your enemies. God knew 4000 years ago that this was how man would respond because it was written in the old testament that somehow He condoned it, and that He actually took pleasure in man killing on His behalf.

I praise God that, under grace, I feel no need to take vengeance on any other human regardless of their beliefs.
When Jesus returns to judge, then it would be an indescribably incredible honor to be chosen to judge with Him.

Well Joe, you did say any and all comments. I hope that I haven't offended or shocked anyone.

Tim

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