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Sorin:
...but I'm not excited about the whole 'being saved' and given immortality thing. In other words, it doesn't look that good to me, in fact in some ways it's worse than this life. I used to think that the new life or 'eternal life' as Christians call it was going to be all the good things in life, and much more without any of the bad stuff [evil]. But as I now understand it, we are going to live forever, given immortality, never able to die again and we'll be like the angels, which don't marry?! Sounds awful to me, I mean seriously. what are we supposed to do for all eternity? And God even takes that away?!  The muslim promise sounds much better, too bad it's a lie. But that sounds like heaven, not what the bible offers.

I mean it's great that God will not torture anyone with literal fire for all eternity, but I would rather be annihilated than be like 'the angels'. 
So yes, God or no God, existence is rather sad and the future looks rather bleak too.

I hope I didn't offend,
Sorin

gmik:
Doesn't the Bible say that we canNOT even imagine all that is in store for us.  That sounds like a good thing.

Honestly, I have thought the same thought.  I'd rather just die and stay that way. Seems simpler - just like before I was born.  When I first found out about universalism, I was kinda being swayed by preterism & annihialists- but their scripture never panned out for me and I kept being drawn back to BT.

I believe now that I can't possibly picture in my mind what it is going to be like, but God didn't go thru this entire plan in history w/ billions of people and kill His only Begotten Son for nothing- so I am sure it is going to be awesome!!!  Testosterone? You won't even miss it!

love,
gena

sj:
Sorin,

I don't think your post was offensive at all... infact, i think your honest opinion is refreshing because deep down I believe that no matter how "enlightened" many of us act like we are, we're all still human and struggle with the basic fears of the unknown eternity.

There are moments where I'm out driving by myself... all alone with my thoughts... and I find myself questioning whether there even is a God? Sometimes it is difficult to believe that a God who would create so much evil could not be evil Himself, yet I find so much comfort in the scriptures about how much He loves us and how well He knows what we truly need!

I'm still pretty new to the whole revelation of the salvation of all mankind, so I guess at the moment I'm just happy that I or any of my friends or family will not burn in literal fire for all of eternity, but the more I grow in my relationship with Christ the more I realize He is working what is best not only for Himself, but also for ME and YOU!

Give it some time bro, don't lose hope! In the end I believe with my whole heart we will not be dissapointed... your have my prayers friend.

God's Peace.
Josh

Sorin:
Thanks guys for your replies and kind words. And Josh thanks for your honesty as well. I wasn't sure what kind of replies I would get to that post, but I figured if I can't openly discuss things here then it's no different then Babylon where no one is allowed to question, wonder, and discuss things that are 'out side the box' sort of speak.

So it's refreshing to be able to open up and discuss the things that are on my mind, and that concern me, without people getting all offended and judgemental
like in Christendom.

Take care guys,
Sorin

Kat:
Hi Sorin,

I think I understand what you are saying.
So what you were hoping for is this:


--- Quote ---all the good things in life, and much more without any of the bad stuff [evil].
--- End quote ---

Well it is my belief that what we have in store can not be compared to anything in this life.
This life is for us to gain knowledge of good and bad.  Some times the bad can be very bad.

Ecc 1:13 I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens: it is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it. (CLV)

This experience is hard, but it is actually a really short time, but 'a vapor' (James 4:14).  And we can not yet see beyond this world clearly.

1Co 13:12  For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall fully know even as I also am fully known.

But I have faith in the scripture that promise something wonderful to say the least.

Rev 2:7  He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat of the Tree of Life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

1Co 2:9  But as it is written, "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard," nor has it entered into the heart of man, "the things which God has prepared for those who love Him."

It is my belief that the universe was not created in vain.  What is it's purpose, if not for God to continue to expand the beauty of creation out into the vastness of it. 
There is no telling what part we may play in that.  But I feel certain it will be grand.
What we have now is the beginning, a shadow of what is to come.

I hope this is of some encouragement to you  :)

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

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