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The biggest stumbling of orthodoxy

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undignifieddancer:
Guys,

I'm new here but not new to any of these conerstones without free will and ET.  I accept these both as false teachings by the mid-early chruch to control the unlearned population and create works righteousness to benefit the money machine that is the Church.

Being new here I can't know every discussion so forgive me if I'm asking a dumb question.  However I believe the final step of this thought process which is that the victory of Christ was just that....the victory.  The kingdom is now!!! And the kingdom will be...all at the same time.

Without ET, free will while counting salvation for all.... this is the kingdom...what else do we need?  Yet we haven't fully realized it in our "human" time.

Peace

Falconn003:
undignifieddancer

Good point you brought up...what else do we need ???

I would go with a lot of spiritual growth for myself and me expressing tolerance for others.

Rodger

orion77:
Good points, undignifiedancer and falcon.  When I see how much Gods name and character is slandered and falsely accused, even still He loves us while we were yet sinners.  I believe after He has opened our eyes, we should treat our brothers and sisters in this same way He has treated us.  I honestly think this is the hallmark of being a true disciple of our Lord.  We must follow Him, period.  The day will come when we shall see Him as He is, for we shall be like Him.  All of this through the working of the spirit of Him that is in us, to where all the glory goes to the Father.  After all, it is all His anyways.  The life we have is not ours, it was given to us.  The best we can do is to follow His son, Jesus Christ and to get off our high horse and realize we are nothing, can do nothing and can't say nothing except for and from them.  I hate the ways of this world, but I love this life He has given me.  Always thankful and count myself lucky to have a Great God that is full of love, mercy and forgiveness.

God bless,

Gary

Falconn003:
Gary


I say   A  M  E  N  !!! to that sir.



Rodger

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