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Deborah-Leigh:
John 3 : 13....No one....NO ONE has EVER GONE UP TO HEAVEN but there is One Who has come DOWN FROM HEAVEN - the Son of Man Himself Who is dwells, has His home in heaven.

"Jesus said it I believe it and that is that."  someone once said.   ;D

Right on Lisa...sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof!

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

brothertoall:
Longhorn you are something else. You always make me laugh. So I guess this guy you want to kick in the nads is phony. Is that what you are trying to say? ;D ;D ;D

Your silly!!!!!!

bobby

PS. still laughing ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

joyful1:
Martinez--
I've read a good deal of Rick Joyner's material in the past too....as a matter of fact, I've reviewed Christian books for about 4 years now and have been exposed to just about all that "Babylon" and others have to offer...I'm not an expert on anything...but I've just had time to ponder the following...

I've always been amazed at how an experienced blind person entering a new room for the first time, can figure out where to walk and sit and what to do right off the bat.  But the fact remains that they have to rely upon:

(1) their hearing, sense of smell, taste, vibrations, sense of touch, etc.
(2) their "impressions" from echoes of their walking sticks and sometimes even "bumping into things"
(3) the guidance of others that "they trust" to help them...including their guide dogs if they have one

As spiritually blind people, I think we've all had to rely upon the same things to help us interpret the writing of God and of other people....we just didn't "get it" until our eyes were opened by God...until that happened, we relied upon:

(1) our hearing...  "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God..." (in other words...we can't have faith until we can hear...we can't hear until "the Word of God" Jesus, comes to us and gives us "ears to hear!" While in Babylon...our hearing seems very limited, if you will...
(2) our "impressions" of what is out there as we "bounce our own sounds/words" off of them
(3) the "guidance" of others that we trust; parent, spouse, clergy, world religious leaders, etc....

I really think that myself, Rick Joyner...and many other Christian authors, from what I've read, are trying very hard to "interpret" the dark without actually having true "vision" or "sight." Some work very hard at interpreting the "things" that are out there and come close in some cases....giving you some "truth" mixed in with the "lying."  Being blind, however,they believe that they are giving you the "true picture." Do you get my point?

Now that Jesus is opening our eyes....we can really begin to "see" and discern for the first time!! This is both wonderful and frightening ....it gives us BOTH freedom....AND responsibility.....just as if someone had come along and given us the laser surgery necessary to remove physical blindness...in which case...we would then become BOTH free to move about and explore a world we'd never seen before AND RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WE SAW!

just my thought for the day...thanks for showing me something that helped me as well!
Joyce  :)

Kat:

Hi Joyce,

I 'see' what your saying  :)

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

hebrewroots98:
Joyce, You are so right!!!  I AM AT A POINT IN MY LIFE TO WHERE I AM ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO DISCERN GODS TRUTHS FOR THE FIRST TIME AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT, AS YOU STATED, I AM BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY HIM TO BACK UP MY BELIEFS AND TO 'EXPOSE THOSE WHOM CONTRADICT'.  I get so excited that HE has blessed me with dicernment finally, as I have sought after it for the past 26 years and I must say that GOD opened my eyes just this past year AMEN!!!! I have been used by HIM to correct, rebuke, encourage etc..with these new found pearls, and my husband and I are equally yoked too.  GOD IS  SO Awesome!

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