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Not good news to Christendom
dawnnnny:
I've been a "believer" for over 20 years and to be honest, the only time I thought about hell was when my dad died. I wondered (hoped) he was saved. And then of course for myself, constantly trying to be "good enough" to get to heaven. But even in that it was focused on getting to heaven, not the alternative. I had heard about this belief that all will be saved years ago, but someone called it heretical so I didn't give it any thought.
When I saw the link to Ray's website, I clicked on it (about a month ago) and started reading. What struck me like a brick, when I first was reading on this "all redeemed" perspective was this: Love your enemies.
That is what pushed me on to read more (well, that and Jesus) :) I thought to myself, hmmmm if this is true, then there's a good reason we are told to love our enemies, as one day they would be my brothers and sisters in Christ. And my dad ? ;D
What peace, what truly "Good News"
LittleBear:
That's beautiful Dawn,
There's such joy in knowing God's real good news, that all will be saved! We can just rest in His goodness and know that He will take care of ALL His sheep, and won't let any stray.
Interesting about loving your enemies, it's selfless. In Christendom, it's all about ME. Whew, as long as I'M saved, I'm doing ok. It's such a selfish doctrine based on total fear for oneself.
God is so totally BIG and AWESOME!
Ursula
SandyFla:
--- Quote from: Dawn on August 15, 2007, 08:32:30 PM ---I had heard about this belief that all will be saved years ago, but someone called it heretical so I didn't give it any thought.
--- End quote ---
I had the exact same reaction, but only after I argued the point a bit. The thing that made me pay attention to Ray (via God saying it was time to open my eyes) was when I read how God placed the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in a spot where Adam & Eve couldn't miss it, which is directly the opposite of what a parent would do if he wanted his children not to touch something. What Ray said made sense.
--- Quote from: Dawn on August 15, 2007, 08:32:30 PM ---I thought to myself, hmmmm if this is true, then there's a good reason we are told to love our enemies, as one day they would be my brothers and sisters in Christ.
--- End quote ---
Excellent observation.
I've heard Christians say, "There but for the grace of God go I," but their actions say, "I could NEVER be that bad." One day Hitler, Hussein, Stalin, et al, will be perfectly righteous. If God could do it instantaneously for a man known as Saul of Tarsus, He can do it through aeonian judgment for them.
Re: your father, I always wondered how a "gospel" of eternal hell could be "good news" for new Christians who've lost loved ones who died "without God." The TRUE gospel says he is sleeping and awaiting a kind of judgment that will lead to his salvation. Praise God forever!
Sandy
insanezenmistress:
where is this UR.....i could not find it by Google.
ciy:
Insane,
You can find plenty on Universal Reconciliation in Ray's writings, but if you Google it you will also find plenty supporting UR.
CIY
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