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hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: brothertoall on January 30, 2007, 11:29:05 AM ---maybe we could get someone here to explain this verse to all of us without locking this thread.

1 Corinthians 7:36


36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.




--- End quote ---

Hi Bobby,

Let's look at a few translations of this verse and the verses that surround it;

1 Corinthians 7 (The Message)


32-35I want you to live as free of complications as possible. When you're unmarried, you're free to concentrate on simply pleasing the Master. Marriage involves you in all the nuts and bolts of domestic life and in wanting to please your spouse, leading to so many more demands on your attention. The time and energy that married people spend on caring for and nurturing each other, the unmarried can spend in becoming whole and holy instruments of God. I'm trying to be helpful and make it as easy as possible for you, not make things harder. All I want is for you to be able to develop a way of life in which you can spend plenty of time together with the Master without a lot of distractions.

 36-38If a man has a woman friend to whom he is loyal but never intended to marry, having decided to serve God as a "single," and then changes his mind, deciding he should marry her, he should go ahead and marry. It's no sin; it's not even a "step down" from celibacy, as some say. On the other hand, if a man is comfortable in his decision for a single life in service to God and it's entirely his own conviction and not imposed on him by others, he ought to stick with it. Marriage is spiritually and morally right and not inferior to singleness in any way, although as I indicated earlier, because of the times we live in, I do have pastoral reasons for encouraging singleness.

 39-40A wife must stay with her husband as long as he lives. If he dies, she is free to marry anyone she chooses. She will, of course, want to marry a believer and have the blessing of the Master. By now you know that I think she'll be better off staying single. The Master, in my opinion, thinks so, too.

1 Corinthians 7 (Amplified Bible)

32My desire is to have you free from all anxiety and distressing care. The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord--how he may please the Lord;

33But the married man is anxious about worldly matters--how he may please his wife--

34And he is drawn in diverging directions [his interests are divided and he is distracted from his devotion to God]. And the unmarried woman or girl is concerned and anxious about the matters of the Lord, how to be wholly separated and set apart in body and spirit; but the married woman has her cares [centered] in earthly affairs--how she may please her husband.

35Now I say this for your own welfare and profit, not to put [a halter of] restraint upon you, but to promote what is seemly and in good order and to secure your undistracted and undivided devotion to the Lord.

36But if any man thinks that he is not acting properly toward and in regard to his virgin [that he is preparing disgrace for her or incurring reproach], in case she is passing the bloom of her youth and if there is need for it, let him do what to him seems right; he does not sin; let them marry.

37But whoever is firmly established in his heart [strong in mind and purpose], not being forced by necessity but having control over his own will and desire, and has resolved this in his heart to keep his own virginity, he is doing well.

38So also then, he [the father] who gives his virgin (his daughter) in marriage does well, and he [the father] who does not give [her] in marriage does better.


39A wife is bound to her husband by law as long as he lives. If the husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she will, only [provided that he too is] in the Lord.

40But in my opinion [a widow] is happier (more blessed and [f]to be envied) if she does not remarry. And also I think I have the Spirit of God

1 Corinthians 7 (New Living Translation)

32 I want you to be free from the concerns of this life. An unmarried man can spend his time doing the Lord’s work and thinking how to please him. 33 But a married man has to think about his earthly responsibilities and how to please his wife. 34 His interests are divided. In the same way, a woman who is no longer married or has never been married can be devoted to the Lord and holy in body and in spirit. But a married woman has to think about her earthly responsibilities and how to please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your benefit, not to place restrictions on you. I want you to do whatever will help you serve the Lord best, with as few distractions as possible.

 36 But if a man thinks that he’s treating his fiancée improperly and will inevitably give in to his passion, let him marry her as he wishes. It is not a sin. 37 But if he has decided firmly not to marry and there is no urgency and he can control his passion, he does well not to marry. 38 So the person who marries his fiancée does well, and the person who doesn’t marry does even better.

 39 A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. If her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but only if he loves the Lord.[j] 40 But in my opinion it would be better for her to stay single, and I think I am giving you counsel from God’s Spirit when I say this.

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe



brothertoall:
Thank you Joe. Now my next question and hopefully someone knows their history. When did the ritual of marriage start. You know like who was the first to start a ceremony,the ring ect....

rrammfcitktturjsp:
Joe,

  That was indeed helpful. 


  Sincerely,


 

  Anne C. McGuire 

rrammfcitktturjsp:
Joe,

  I only promoted it becuase it did addresses the actual customs that are found in the marriage ritual.

 Not becuase I agree with the Messianic way of thinking.  I am not Messianic.  I am one who seeks after the truth. I am not meaning to cause division.  I have not seen any marriage rituals mentioned in the bible.  So that clued me into the fact that they were started after the bible had been written.  If I am wrong on this, please show me my error and I will change.  I have searced for marriage stuff in the bible and can only find instances where either wives are taken by men or given in marraige to men.  I also have found that once when people became betrothed, they then consummated the marraige.  Once this took place it become valid in God's eyes.  I am not really sure where to look.
 

  I am really confused right now and have a question to ask?  If something is not specifically discussed or expounded or addressed in the bible what should we do?  In my case, I usually look to other sources and see if they agree in spirit of what the bible is saying.  Please understand that by my posting the book I am not promoting Messianic way of thinking.  I just do not know how to answer Bobby's questioin in a relevant way without using sources outside the bible, as I have found no marriage rituals in the bible. 

 Sincerely,



  Anne C. McGuire

brothertoall:
I thought this was interesting!!!!!




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