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hillsbororiver:
A hypothetical friend of mine has a very sick wife and child, prone to infections and respiratory problems we have suggested numerous times that they should see a Doctor but the husband especially refuses to because God is the Doctor, controls all things and if it is His will that they be sick, even die it is His will and no Doctor or medicine  has the power to interfere, after all it just man made "science" these pills are poison and the Doctors are only men who are authorized and sanctioned by other men.

He claims he and his family have been sick before and they are still alive to talk about it so quit telling them what they need to do, God knows they are right and shunning man made medicine is showing his and his wife's faith is much stronger than all the lemmings who blindly follow the "traditions of men."

Can anyone point us to the scripture which says we must seek a Doctor when our families are very sick?

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

brothertoall:
Colossians 4:14 Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Joe I do believe that it is a very special gift of God that is given to a doctor.

bobby

eggi:
I think this scripture says a lot about this question:

And Joseph commanded his servants the physicians to embalm his father: and the physicians embalmed Israel. (Genesis 50:2 KJV)

Also, Paul told Timothy to drink some wine for his health's sake. He also told the centurion and the soldiers to eat for their health. What doctors do is to prescribe medication, which is sometimes effective against diseases and health problems. Why didn't Paul just tell Timothy and the soldiers to not do anything about it?

And while the day was coming on, Paul besought them all to take meat, saying, This day is the fourteenth day that ye have tarried and continued fasting, having taken nothing. Wherefore I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health: for there shall not an hair fall from the head of any of you. (Act 27:33-34 KJV)

Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. (1Ti 5:23 KJV)

However, there are, as we know, many references to healing without medication too. Paul healed by praying too:

And it came to pass, that the father of Publius lay sick of a fever and of a bloody flux: to whom Paul entered in, and prayed, and laid his hands on him, and healed him. (Act 28:8 KJV)

But Paul also traveled with a physician, and even though Paul prayed, it is very likely that Luke did all he could to help:

Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you. (Col 4:14 KJV)

So, which one is it? Medicine or praying?
My understanding is that the lesson we can learn is that physical health problems have spiritual causes too. I see nothing wrong with consulting a doctor, after all, it's all up to God if treatment works. He is the ultimate doctor, and we can be thankful only to Him. It too, is something to be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. (1Ti 4:5 KJV)

Even if bodily exercise (or medicine) is good (not bad, or a lack of faith), the spiritual health is good for all things:

For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. (1Ti 4:8 KJV)

There is nothing wrong with being in good health (also by medicinal aid), but it's more important to be prospering in spirit:

Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. (3Jo 1:2 KJV)

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: brothertoall on January 31, 2007, 10:15:35 AM ---Colossians 4:14 Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Joe I do believe that it is a very special gift of God that is given to a doctor.

bobby

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Yes, but where does scripture say we should seek medical advice? Doesn't this show more faith in man made science or tradition than it shows trust in God?

His Peace and Wisdom to you.

Joe

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: eggi on January 31, 2007, 10:19:23 AM ---I think this scripture says a lot about this question:

And Joseph commanded his servants the physicians to embalm his father: and the physicians embalmed Israel. (Genesis 50:2 KJV)

See the guy is already dead, what good are the physicians?

Also, Paul told Timothy to drink some wine for his health's sake. He also told the centurion and the soldiers to eat for their health. What doctors do is to prescribe medication, which is sometimes effective against diseases and health problems. Why didn't Paul just tell Timothy and the soldiers to not do anything about it?

So then should this family drink some wine and forget about it? Doctors prescribe medicine and people still die.

And while the day was coming on, Paul besought them all to take meat, saying, This day is the fourteenth day that ye have tarried and continued fasting, having taken nothing. Wherefore I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health: for there shall not an hair fall from the head of any of you. (Act 27:33-34 KJV)

They eat three meals a day. They feel the rest is between them and God.

Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. (1Ti 5:23 KJV)

Even his 5 year old?

However, there are, as we know, many references to healing without medication too. Paul healed by praying too:

And it came to pass, that the father of Publius lay sick of a fever and of a bloody flux: to whom Paul entered in, and prayed, and laid his hands on him, and healed him. (Act 28:8 KJV)

This is what they believe too, all healing comes from God and anything else is man made superstition and tradition.

But Paul also traveled with a physician, and even though Paul prayed, it is very likely that Luke did all he could to help:

But where does god command us to go to a Doctor?

Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you. (Col 4:14 KJV)

So, which one is it? Medicine or praying?
My understanding is that the lesson we can learn is that physical health problems have spiritual causes too. I see nothing wrong with consulting a doctor, after all, it's all up to God if treatment works. He is the ultimate doctor, and we can be thankful only to Him. It too, is something to be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. (1Ti 4:5 KJV)

Even if bodily exercise (or medicine) is good (not bad, or a lack of faith), the spiritual health is good for all things:

For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. (1Ti 4:8 KJV)

There is nothing wrong with being in good health (also by medicinal aid), but it's more important to be prospering in spirit:

Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. (3Jo 1:2 KJV)

Thank you Eirik,

Joe


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