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brothertoall:
Tis true Dennis but are we to still love them or not. There were non that where a part of the body before Christ was crucufied either but the scripture tells me that He gave himself for all.
Are we to love them any less or are we to love all equally just as Christ loved all equally?
bobby
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: brothertoall on January 31, 2007, 01:58:49 PM ---Tis true Dennis but are we to still love them or not. There were non that where a part of the body before Christ was crucufied either but the scripture tells me that He gave himself for all.
Are we to love them any less or are we to love all equally just as Christ loved all equally?
bobby
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Well, I said no problem. So, yes we are to love all, but I do not love people that blow-up children in their schools (equally) as I love my own daughter, and I don't think God expects me to.
I also said above:
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
There are the "called" and the "chosen."
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Dennis
rocky:
--- Quote from: Kat on January 31, 2007, 11:21:31 AM ---Hi Bradford,
I see nothing wrong with visiting other forum if you so desire.
But it seems like you were referring to 'all Christians' as the body of Christ?
In the scripture that were referring to the body of believers,
the writer began the comments to the 'Brothers',
I believer that 'Brother' is speaking only to the chosen few, not all the called.
1Co 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed.
1Co 12:12 For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ.
1Co 12:13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--Jews or Greeks, slaves or free--and all were made to drink of one Spirit.
Rom 12:1 I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.
Rom 12:4 For as in one body we have many members, and the members do not all have the same function,
The body of Christ are those who abide in Christ and those who keep His commandments and bear fruit.
John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser.
v. 2 Every branch of mine that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.
v. 3 Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you.
v. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me.
v. 5 I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.
v.6 If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned.
v. 7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
v. 8 By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples.
v. 9 As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Abide in my love.
v. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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How could " brother" be speaking only to the chosen, when none of them knew that they were chosen? They were hoping to, but I thot not even Paul considered himself as chosen??
rocky:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on January 31, 2007, 02:10:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: brothertoall on January 31, 2007, 01:58:49 PM ---Tis true Dennis but are we to still love them or not. There were non that where a part of the body before Christ was crucufied either but the scripture tells me that He gave himself for all.
Are we to love them any less or are we to love all equally just as Christ loved all equally?
bobby
--- End quote ---
Well, I said no problem. So, yes we are to love all, but I do not love people that blow-up children in their schools (equally) as I love my own daughter, and I don't think God expects me to.
I also said above:
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
There are the "called" and the "chosen."
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Dennis
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agape, only comes from God. God does love the one who blows up others just as much as you. That's why it's grace.
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: rocky on January 31, 2007, 02:17:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on January 31, 2007, 02:10:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: brothertoall on January 31, 2007, 01:58:49 PM ---Tis true Dennis but are we to still love them or not. There were non that where a part of the body before Christ was crucufied either but the scripture tells me that He gave himself for all.
Are we to love them any less or are we to love all equally just as Christ loved all equally?
bobby
--- End quote ---
Well, I said no problem. So, yes we are to love all, but I do not love people that blow-up children in their schools (equally) as I love my own daughter, and I don't think God expects me to.
I also said above:
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
There are the "called" and the "chosen."
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Dennis
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agape, only comes from God. God does love the one who blows up others just as much as you. That's why it's grace.
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I am well aware that the terrorist are but clay in God's hand, and but for the grace of God go I. But God does not expect us to love the terrorists with the same love as we have for our family members. That's the point I want to make.
I do not consider my neighbors my spiritual brothers. They believe in a false god that tortures unbelievers for all eternity. But I know full well that it could just as easily be me that believes lies (as it was in the past) and they could have the truth. That is why we should love them as ourselves.
There was a topic a long time ago on the subject of love. Turns out there are many types of love in the bible, unfourtunatly, we have only one English word for love that covers all types.
Dennis
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