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when is scripture literal and when is it spiritual????
DWIGHT:
When you ask the question, "when is scripture literal and when is it spiritual," do you mean when is scripture literal when I want it to be literal and when I want it to be spiritual? If that is the real question, then we are all guilty because the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit. The answer to this very difficult question has to be found in Christ and in Him alone. The words that I speak to you are spirit. They cannot be seen with the human eye. How many times have we read a chapter or verse and never really understood it. Then one day that same chapter or verse becomes clear as crystal or you see something in that you never saw before? When Peter told Jesus that He is the Christ the Son of the living God, Jesus said flesh and blood hath not revealed unto thee but My Father which is in heaven.
When we read the scriptures with our mind, we see absolutely nothing but we get deceived and think that we know something and then use it for our own interpretation. But when God reveals it to us it is life and truth. Like the two trees in the garden of Eden, one tree led to their death and the other Tree led to life. It just depends on which tree we eat; we can eat of good and evil or we can eat of life. Jesus said, except you eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no part in me. How do we eat Him and how do we drink Him? Only one way...in spirit and in truth. Where is that to be found? The words that speak to you, they are spirit and they are truth. The only words that we have from Jesus are the scriptures. But we must be careful because even Satan knows the scriptures and even tempted our Lord with them.
Look at all of us these past months and all that God has revealed to us...are we worthy? No. But for some reason, it pleases our merciful God to reveal them to us by His Spirit. How many thousands have read Ray's papers and have not seen a thing. Blessed are our eyes for we are seeing things that even the prophets desired to look into. May the Lord continue to open our eyes by His Spirit! The literal profits nothing.
In His Name,
Dwight
Craig:
Yes, I know Ray stated that (and I agree) but I'm still looking for where he says ""it is all spiritual and not to be taken Literally" or close to it.
I'm searching his revelations emails and papers because he might have said somethig similiar about that book, can't find it yet though.
I've put Ray's entire Lake series into one large pdf file, I'm going to start trying word searches.
Let me know if you find it first.
Craig
Craig:
I emailed our question to Ray. Here is his response.
> Ray,
>
> Do you remember stating this in your papers? A member understands that
> you make this statement, and I can't find or remember it.
>
> Literal and spiritual interpretations was discussed.
>
> "i have read the papers on bible truths and Ray makes it a point that it
> is all spiritual and not to be taken Literally."
>
> I know that the literal things have higher spiritual interpritations,
> but does that take away from the literal?
>
> Craig
Craig:
I may have stated something within a certain context, such as the "lake of fire"
is all spiritual and not to be taken literally, but I don't think that I have ever made
such a general blanket statement regarding the whole Bible, even though I have
stated that the whole Bible is one giant parable. I do not believe that Spiritual
Noah, built a spiritual ark, and took spiritual animals aboard, to save them from
spiritual water, and that the ark then rested on a spiritual mountain.
God be with you,
Ray
brothertoall:
--- Quote from: brothertoall on February 01, 2007, 05:55:20 PM ---
Parable
« on: December 30, 2006, 06:06:17 PM »
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Hi ray,
Thanks for the encouragement.. can you tell me what you mean when you say all of the scriptures are a parable?
Thanks,
Dave
Dear Dave:
Well, not really, not in less than a hour or so, but I'll give you a hint. God is the Creator. He made everything. He made everthing for a purpose. There is one grand goal that God has for the entire human race. The Christian Church has not a CLUE as to what that goal is or how it will be accomplish. The whole plan and purpose is outlined in the Scriptures. But just as NONE of the people who heard Jesus teach in parables, understood His parables, so the Whole Bible is one GIANT parable which the Church does not understand. In a nutshell: God is creating the human race into HIS VERY OWN SPIRITUAL IMAGE. Oh, I thought that already was accomplished back in the Garden, wasn't it? I told you it's all one GIANT PARABLE!
God be with you,
Ray
--- End quote ---
PARABLE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable
bobby
hillsbororiver:
Bobby,
Was Christ really crucified or is that not to be taken literally?
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
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