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rrammfcitktturjsp:
Hi Susan,
--- Quote from: hebrewroots98 on February 12, 2007, 04:21:50 AM ---WOW! I just finished listening to the 'LOVE/AGAPE'/PHILLEO' teaching by Ray. What enlightenment and truth. I had always known that AGAPE' was that UNCONDITIONAL kind of love that God has for ALL of HIS creation. But, I never knew that God showed FAVORITISM (if you will) toward people. I especially didn't know that He 'loves' those of us who are trying to do His will each and everyday in our lives; more than He loves those who are not living a Godly life. (PHILEO love; to where HE does actually love and cherish me/us as to think of us as His FRIENDS!!) Now that is neat! (AMEN AND AMEN) :D
I was wondering if Terry could record the downloads on to a CD for both David and I. My computer is on the blink and will not open the links and if it does it will not play Ray very good. I am glad that you and I got to talk a little bit about the Phileo love and the agape love. It is more freeing to know that it is okay not to love the terrorists with a Phileo love. This was freeing becuase I would feel guilt and remorse and felt that I was not where I needed to be. I feel like a huge burden lifted off of my shoulders. I wonder how many other preconceived notions that are holding us in bondage. It will be an amazing journey to say the least when those contradictions are exposed for what they are.
It does make sense now that HE would show favoritism to those of us whom have been chosen/those whom DO the will of the Father. I can also see how righteous HE is when HE hates certain other people b/c of their EVIL WAYS while they are living their unrighteousness infront of Him. Now I undestand how Jesus could go into the temple and call the people HYPOCRITS, VIPERS, etc.. RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION is a form of hating HIS enemies. Now this frees me up from feeling that I must treat these 'workers of iniquity' in a PHILLEO type of love. I am glad to know that God willl not hold it agianst me when I do not go out of my way to PHILLEO those whom don't care or live with Gods' truths. It makes me to have even more love for those who do value and love the truth.
I had always wondered what it meant that when the bible would say that God showed favor upon Noah or anyone else he showed favor upon. It did not make sense, until Phileo and agape were explained by you and Terrry. Yes I too have that freedom that you so eloquently write about.
I used to wonder how I should treat those whom I am repelledl by who live only with a form of Godliness, but, who deny the power thereof? I thank God for showing me that He is cut and dry. He is fair. (Duet. 28...I WILL BLESS THOSE WHO BLESS ME AND I WILL CURSE THOSE WHO CURSE ME...) It finally makes sense! Oh, how wonderful it is to know the real meanings of words! I have been set free again.
Also, I am now able to quit feeling guilty for not trying harder to make relationships happen with my relatives, b/c now I see that we can only be as close as we are and no more unless they turn their lives around and start living for God, since we are unequally yoked and have very little in common together. We as a family are not really a family since we have nothing in common.
Thank you Joe and Arcturus for your words of wisdom! So true that God was preparing my heart for all of these years whenever I would not accept it when I would hear my mom tell me that phrase of "if you don't have anything good to say, then don't say anything at all". I used to feel so guilty if I said something negative about a person. Now I see that they are not of the 'brotherhood' and that it is not negative to tell the truth about a person who is not bearing good fruit.
Still pondering this new revelation :D
Nite, nite for now...
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Thanks for posting this. And I was pleased to know how to post wihtou having to scroll up and down the window to see what I wanted to reply to. Now it is conviently located in my posting window.
Well you all take care.
Have a great one.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
rrammfcitktturjsp:
Praise God,
To All,
Well, I am now getting all the writings in our own set of folders due to the willingness of a special friend who is going to print off all the writings.
And my computer downloaded and Ray is coming in crystal clear. Yeah <claps hands in delight several times and giggles.>
Well I am going to go and listen to the study on love and marriage. I am sure that I will have plenty to say when the time comes.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
<dances out of the forum while singing How Great Thou Art>
hebrewroots98:
Paula, I guess I was trying to simply look at only the physical reality of EROS being in Yeshua's ife in that HE never had any sexual relationship as alot of these (Hellywood) movie producers would like for us to believe. They in their carnal minds cannot fathom the fact that HE came here to serve; not to be served; and that HE was only about HIS FATHERS' business and not his own.
Whereas you pointed out THE SPIRITUAL SIDE OF YESHUA HAVING EROS FOR HIS CHURCH/HIS BRIDE...simply the most brialliant analogy and plan that HE ever designed...the most intimate relationship in the universe is this one!
Arcturus, I am so glad that we are unified in this area at the same time (ha, as I reread what had written, I realize that I meant to say 'repulsed', not repelled- but you got the jest ;)) !! Thank you for the great scripture references; wow, 'let him that believe not in the Lord to be as anathema'..that is powerful everytime that I hear it! IT JUST BLOWS MY MIND EACH TIME THAT I REALIZE THAT 'CHRISTIANS' ARE WHOM HE IS TALKING ABOUT B/C THEY MISS THE MARK. OF COURSE TRY AND TELLTHEM THIS AND THEY WILL HATE YOU FOR IT! I just LOVE this study/topic. You got it right, well said Arcturus, that the wicked go to great lengths -even to the degree of doing bodily harm to themselves just in order to hurt those of us whom are committed to the truth vs Paul's agape' love who willingly took the stripes for us just to get these truths out for the rest of us to take hold of!
Ah, what a good word will do for the heart! :D
Longhor/foghorn/leghorn whatever your name is ;) ;) ;) along that same line of thought, did J. GILES not also write..."I MUSTA GOT LOST"... ( I think that all of you who responded about cereal...MUSTA GOT LOST... on this thread ;) ;) ;D
rrammfcitktturjsp:
Susan,
--- Quote from: hebrewroots98 on February 12, 2007, 08:52:10 PM ---
Whereas you pointed out THE SPIRITUAL SIDE OF YESHUA HAVING EROS FOR HIS CHURCH/HIS BRIDE...simply the most brialliant analogy and plan that HE ever designed...the most intimate relationship in the universe is this one!
Such a powerful and a beautiful sentence. This goes deep and yes that intimate relatioship is so beutiful that I had problems in getting it into words, but you did it Susan.
Longhor/foghorn/leghorn whatever your name is ;) ;) ;) along that same line of thought, did J. GILES not also write..."I MUSTA GOT LOST"... ( I think that all of you who responded about cereal...MUSTA GOT LOST... on this thread ;) ;) ;D
Well, hmmm I exhort you to get a bowel of ceral and come find those of us that are "lost" in the wilderness. ;D
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Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
hebrewroots98:
Anne....CHEERIO, HONEY NUT!!! ;) ;) ;D ;D :o :o
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