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Love
Chris R:
Hello Susan,
The audio was very infomative, and helped me to see the difference between "agape" love , and Phileo love...While i never imagined myself giving a hug and kiss to a cereal killer, on the other hand i can imagine this same cereal killer being a brother one day.
Ray used the analogy of a terorrist butchering a young women while she screamed in terror as her head was cut off with a rusty knife.... How can we love [phileo] such a person? We cant.
However we can have [agape] love for such a person, this love is one way, and expects nothing back in return. Ray explains this very well..its truly amazing.
peace
Chris R
hebrewroots98:
Thank You Chris, I am so looking forward to hearing this as soon as my PC audio gets fixed. I will look to see if it is posted on Rays' site yet too.
Kat:
I do believe this revelation, about the true definition of love is of extreme importance to all of the believers, as it is God's desire for us to gain a proper understanding of it at this time.
As God is love, 1John 4:08.
And Christ answered that the most important commandment centered around love for God and then neighbor.
Mar 12:28 And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, "Which commandment is the most important of all?"
v. 29 Jesus answered, "The most important is, 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
v. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'
v. 31 The second is this: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."
It seems to me that the main reason that God created everything, is so He could love and be loved. The human race is the center of His plan and everything else in this whole physical existence is for the purpose of bringing about this love between God and people.
It is amazing the Truths that we are being given, and to have this forum to share this knowledge with other believers is a extraordinary opportunity.
This type of fellowship has never been available to believers before, communicating with so many from so far away.
Dan 12:4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase."
This new understanding of the meaning of love, puts the conversation that Jesus had we Peter in a whole new light.
John 21:15 When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love(agapao) me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord; you know that I love(phileo) you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs."
v. 16 He said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love(agapao) me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord; you know that I love(phileo) you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep."
v. 17 He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love(phileo) me?" Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, "Do you love(phileo) me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love(phileo) you." Jesus said to him, "Feed my sheep.
Love is what we must all come to know in all its forms, because love is what it is all about :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
rrammfcitktturjsp:
Chris,
I too am a profilic "cereal" killer. I like to kill boxes of Kixes and Oreo and especillay Double Crisp Cookie Cereal. I hope that I am still an accepted member of this group, LOL and my behavior can be condoned. :D :D :D :D
Tho, I did get your point Chris. "serial"
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
Good pun for this time of the day.
Rene:
Hi All,
Excellent comments! I too gained a great deal from the "Love" lesson. The light continues to get brighter!
Rene'
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