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Redbird:
Arcturus,

You left me a good thought for the day.  I understand where you are coming from, cuz I too was raised in the catholic church.  I thank God for your fellowship.  Your last post uplifted me and there is a little song in my heart for you today!  I see you as a very "strong tree", one might say "tough love"!

Peace, Lisa

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Darren

I will use Ray’s technique and comment through your post….

Arcturus,

Good morning my dear sister, God is surely at the center and the outside of my little world, because my world is in Him!  So is yours. 

God is Spirit. God is everywhere and He knows everything! This is not who or where God is because my world is in Him. I am and you are because HE IS. God is not at the centre of all humanity. Satan is very much on the throne of most of humanity. Few are converted and many are called.

Where is your love?

My love is where God is. Where is yours?    ;)   (NO NEED TO ANSWER…RETORICAL QUESTION) :D

 Is it to build up, to inspire or simply correct?

Lets first look at that word you use “build up”. Paul wrote 1 Cor 3 : 10, 11 According to the grace, the special endowment for my task of God bestowed on me, like a skilful architect and master builder I laid the foundation, and now another man is building upon it. (I see the other man as our teacher Ray) But let each man (you and I and others) BE CAREFUL how he builds upon it. 11 For NO OTHER FOUNDATION CAN ANYONE LAY  thand that which is already laid, which is JESUS CHIRST. (Hey, I am just following my Forman who is Paul and observing my teacher who is Ray the roofer!)   ;D

Lets look at the other word you use….inspire….The closest word I could get to regarding this word is inspiration and that word is in 2 Tim 3 : 16 Every Scripture is God breathed, given by INSPIRATION and profitable for INSTRUCTION, for REPROOF and CONVICTION OF SIN, for CORRECTION OF ERROR and DISCIPLINE IN OBEDIENCE and for TRAINING IN RIGHTEOUSNESS in holy living in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose and action.

Then you ask…or “simply to correct.” You have no clue how much time and reflection and training it is giving me to respond to some of the posts in the forum. There is NOTHING SIMPLE ABOUT IT!

 Remember what I posted about the not seeing the forest; I was serious. Please, give me and many here likewise, some credit.   

Okay. I see that you are without doubt doing and saying to me exactly what God would have you write to me. You are in the plan Darren! 8)

I know that Gibran's work is not recognized by the church; but in turn is loved by many, many people. Myself included. It is a story, and the portion I presented here did tie in with the point I was trying to make; a point that I think was lost. 

Oh on the contrary. Your point was fully grasped!    ;D You just did not like the response.  :D

You seem to forget that God speaks to us all in many and varied ways.

You have to be kidding aren’t you!   ;D God does not change. What is many and varied is the opinions and heresies. You want proof? Look at how many denominations are in Christendom….over 3000!

I can see God in most everything (I am working on the remainder)  I see the God of All in much of Gibran's writings because God has allowed me to do so. So what was it that was wrong with the text I posted of Gibran. It was I who posted it, as a witness to the point I was trying to make.

Christ is my witness not Gibran. You decide what is wrong with that. When you meet God you explain your choice of witness. Gibran chooses Abdul and Darren chooses Gibran…can you see the foolishness of this? :D

It seems to me that so much thought and attention is placed on what is to come, that what we have today is totally over looked.

What is it we have today? Everything!

You have to be kidding! EVERYTHING?.. THAT'S IT?. :D

The good to enjoy, the puzzling to fathom and the bad to learn from, but my dear sister, we cannot do this alone; it is by praying constantly for God to open one's heart so that the walls of self righteous pride and understanding can be torn down, never to return. If we lean on our understanding, we will never make it!

Neither will we make it if we lean on Gibrans understanding or Abdul what’s his name! ;D

Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.   

Where is your love (Agapao, Agape) Arcturus?

You have said yourself….it is invisible….. ;D

This is what I wrote: (this time without Gibran)

Are we building each other up, or are we more focused on getting ones point across. I have read this entire thread and I do not find any misinterpretations of Scripture which is great; however, please never, ever let thae fact that God sacrificed his only begotten Son in order that any sin ever comitted will be forgiven and that no person shall ever truly die.

I can not see scripture in that…..there is a second DEATH. Rev 2 : 11 “He who is able to hear, let him listen to and heed what the Spirit says to the assemblies. He who overcomes, shall in no way be injured by the SECOND DEATH.” …..so you say Darren that no person shall ever truly die….Not true…not even close….but probably quite close to Gibrans way of “seeing” things.  

God has provided a Wonderful place in which we can fellowship together and lift one another up; so let us always praise God for everthing he has given us.

Yes…lets…even the trials of which I am obviously one to you!

I want to close this with a Scripture and few worrds from Kahlil Gibran.

1Jo 4:16
And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Here is a question for you and all else who care to answer:

Jhn 13:35  By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Are we really being seen as disciples of Christ by others. My heart is sad, because I no longer see the love that this forum once had. 

DON’T BE SAD.

Show me the Love.

Sounds like…show me the money!....Only kidding…. :D
Darren God is love. That you have no idea how much time, effort and joy I get in pondering the thoughts and scriptures that your digging encourages in me, is not my fault or error. You are truly a delight and I am being trained through your posts! Agreement is not my ambition. Approval of man is not my fuel either. ;D

The same love that Jesus spoke about in the two verses above and I will see God. We will all then see God very clearly and others will see him in us. 

GOD IS IN HIS WORD. IF HIS WORD IS IN US THEN HE TOO DWELLS IN US. GOD WILL NOT SHARE HIS HOUSE WITH SATAN AND NEITHER IS ANY DARKNESS FOUND IN HIM..…No one will see God until the resurrection. Only those who are pure in heart will see God. Matt 5 : 8 Blessed are the pure in heart; for THEY shall see God.

Praise be to God!!

Love,
Darren

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

Deborah-Leigh:
Thank you for His fruit of joy you share with me Lisa..."strong tree" you say?...maybe....my bark is worse than my bite! ;D

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

gmik:
Darren, i hope you really don't mean you don't see the love on the forum like it once had.

Arcturus did say "no one had to agree" and she posted what she thought.

I feel there is a lot of love and respect on this forum.  I re read this thread and didn't comment cuz it was kinda too deep for me and in reality didn't hit me one way or another.  But thats just me.  I still liked reading all the comments.

Darren I think you have been here as long as I.  We all don't have to agree 100% and yet can still love one another. Look at your posts on other threads.  You are loved indeed brother.

YellowStone:
Arcturus :)

I love your post. I mean it, I really do feel your love!  I don't agree with everything, but who cares!!!!  :))

I will comment on the folowing:

You seem to forget that God speaks to us all in many and varied ways.

You have to be kidding aren’t you!    God does not change. What is many and varied is the opinions and heresies. You want proof? Look at how many denominations are in Christendom….over 3000!

Ha! :)  I said God speaks, not Satan or Gibran or Ray or anyone. God speaks through, such as these. Certainly, some more often than others. Some speak truth even though they not know it; very much like a stopped clock, even it is correct twice a day. :)

But I see where you are coming from. One should not ever replace the Word of God with the words of others. The words we chose to hold onto must always align with the Word of God. I think  you would agree with this.


I can see God in most everything (I am working on the remainder)  I see the God of All in much of Gibran's writings because God has allowed me to do so. So what was it that was wrong with the text I posted of Gibran. It was I who posted it, as a witness to the point I was trying to make.

Christ is my witness not Gibran. You decide what is wrong with that. When you meet God you explain your choice of witness. Gibran chooses Abdul and Darren chooses Gibran…can you see the foolishness of this?

Arcturus, let us forget who said it, but what was said. Do you see anything untrue or just plain wrong in the words given? I believe you are stretching the truth a little when you say that I will stand before God and give all credit of my understanding to Gibran. :) Do you see the foolishness in that?  :D

This is how God speaks in many varied ways. What is God saying to you when you see a pretty flower, a rainbow or a mother duck and her little ducklings crossing a road? See what I mean. :)


It seems to me that so much thought and attention is placed on what is to come, that what we have today is totally over looked.

What is it we have today? Everything!

You have to be kidding! EVERYTHING?.. THAT'S IT?.

Yep!! and I am not kidding :)   

Please read the words of Matthew

Mat 6:25 ¶
Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Mat 6:26 
Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? ]

Mat 6:27 
Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

Mat 6:28 
And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:

Mat 6:29 
And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

Mat 6:30 
Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, [shall he] not much more [clothe] you, O ye of little faith?

Mat 6:31 
Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

Mat 6:32 
(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

Mat 6:33 
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.


Yes Arcturus, God has given me EVERYTHING I need and He is giving it to me when I need it. In his time, not mine. :) Surely you do not doubt this.


Are we building each other up, or are we more focused on getting ones point across. I have read this entire thread and I do not find any misinterpretations of Scripture which is great; however, please never, ever let thae fact that God sacrificed his only begotten Son in order that any sin ever comitted will be forgiven and that no person shall ever truly die.

I can not see scripture in that…..there is a second DEATH. Rev 2 : 11 “He who is able to hear, let him listen to and heed what the Spirit says to the assemblies. He who overcomes, shall in no way be injured by the SECOND DEATH.” …..so you say Darren that no person shall ever truly die….Not true…not even close….but probably quite close to Gibrans way of “seeing” things

I may not have this right, but either Christ will save all, or he will not. You cannot have it both ways. (Please tell me if any person will never see eternal life, for I truly might be wrong on this)

1Ti 2:3 
For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1Ti 2:4 
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth



Show me the Love.

Sounds like…show me the money!....Only kidding….
Darren God is love. That you have no idea how much time, effort and joy I get in pondering the thoughts and scriptures that your digging encourages in me, is not my fault or error. You are truly a delight and I am being trained through your posts! Agreement is not my ambition. Approval of man is not my fuel either.

Oh, I fully understand the effort that goes into responding to most of these posts. I certainly have never thought for a moment that you are any different. Nor do I think you post untruths!!  :)

But this is what this discussion is all about. Let us first and foremost always thank the person for sharing their opinion or truth that has been given to them. Let us then comment on the part/s that we agree with, and only then let us seek to correct. (This is something I am going to try to do in everything from now on)

I do not seek agreement, nor do I seek approval of man; however, if the words I write are not uplifting to a fellow seeker of truth, then neither am I seeking to please Christ. Does this make sense?


God has provided a Wonderful place in which we can fellowship together and lift one another up; so let us always praise God for everthing he has given us.

Yes…lets…even the trials of which I am obviously one to you!

Touche   ;D

You always make me think Arcturus that is for sure. I would never class you as a trial, but you do provide a challenge, so I guess you are right.

I do love you my dear sister, and I have much to learn from you.

Let us part as friends (hugs)

Love,
Darren

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