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What Sin Is To a Believer (Who Has Christ's Spirit in Him or Her.)

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Deborah-Leigh:
Marycee

You wrote : If Christ lives in you, He is Lord. Compartmentalising sin is living under the Old Covenant. Under the New Covenant, we obey the Lordship of Christ. That Lordship is based in the Love of God, Agape, which is to rule over the heart in all things.

You have to be kidding us hey?  So where does Phileo love fit this rule of yours?....

Have you heard the latest teaching on love by Ray posted in the Announcements section? Listen and be amaized! It might change your mind!

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

Deborah-Leigh:
Paula

Your post says : I agree with you Marycee that what may be a sin to one person is not sin to another. So it can be hard to give advice to other Christians regarding sin unless it is a universal sin. God judges the motives of our heart where others can't see. It is good to have a fellowship of believers you trust though to be able to bounce things off of. Sometimes it helps me to work through an issue if I can talk to someone about it.

It is not relevant that what may be sin to one is not sin to another. What is relevant is what is sin to God. God's perspective is the all important one. The scripture quoted is Gods perspective. For me that is important! and not what you or I or anyone else says.

The teaching on the Myth of free will is the truth that unites us in like mindedness for those who agree that is and for those who have taken the time to read it. I am not saying that you haven't read it. Some read it and do not understand it. I am not saying you do not understand it either! I am saying that our like mindedness in this Forum is based on the fact that we agree with Ray's insights and teachings not one anothers insights and teachings.

Peace to you

Arcturus  :)

John9362:
Thank you Arcturus for pointing this out:
in this Forum is based on the fact that we agree with Ray's insights and teachings not one anothers insights and teachings.

Love to all of you
John9362

Kat:
Hi Marycee,

When Christ's Spirit is indewelling, sin no longer has dominion over you.

Rom 6:3  Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
v. 4  We were buried therefore with Him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.
v. 6  We know that our old self was crucified with Him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.
v. 7  For one who has died has been set free from sin.
v. 11  So you also must consider yourself dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.
v. 12  Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal bodies, to make you obey their passions.
v. 13  Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness.
v. 14  For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.

That Spirit of Christ in the believers, will give you the strength you need to resist sin and when we stumble, He will chasten us to correct us.

1Co 11:32  But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

It is only through Christ in us that we can live a life of overcoming sin in this world.

1Jo 4:4  You are of God, little children, and you have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

Robin:
 Mark 7

18And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

 
Romans 2
28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

1 Peter 4
 
1Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.

Galatians 5

16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.



When I hit the great falling away that Ray speaks of the first thing I did was put every sin in thought, word, and deed under a microscope and my biggest question was How do I stop doing this? What I found out later is that there is nothing I could have done or can do to fix myself. I cannot be my own savior by the works of the law. God started the process of the circumcision or my heart through firey trials that still continue. My carnal mind must die. What I do and say and think are all friut.

Matthew 7
17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

hewn
1. to strike forcibly with an ax, sword, or other cutting instrument; chop; hack.  
2. to make, shape, smooth, etc., with cutting blows: to hew a passage through the crowd; to hew a statue from marble.  
3. to sever (a part) from a whole by means of cutting blows (usually fol. by away, off, out, from, etc.): to hew branches from the tree.  
4. to cut down; fell: to hew wood; trees hewed down by the storm.  
–verb (used without object) 5. to strike with cutting blows; cut: He hewed more vigorously each time.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


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