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rrammfcitktturjsp:
To All,

  I have listened to Ray's talk on Love.  I am confused, Ray mentioned that the Greek word for hate means to love less?  I guess I am confused on how God can hate and love at the same time.  Is this parrellel <sic> loving and hating Lubbock at the same time? 

  This talk has confused me greatly in this respect.

  Any help would be beneicial and desired.

  Sincerely,





  Anne C. McGuire

hillsbororiver:
Rom 9:13  As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.3404

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μισέω
miseō
mis-eh'-o
From a primary word μῖσος misos (hatred); to detest (especially to persecute); by extension to love less: - hate (-ful).

Anne,

I hope this helps,

Joe

hebrewroots98:
Yes, Anne, that is exactly the concept; it is a love/hate relationship that we have with Lubbock, Texas; just as God has a love/hate relationship with HIS creatures who refuse to DO HIS WILL.  GOD loves less those who are offending HIS GREATNESS AND HIS LOVE AND HIS WORK IN US AND FOR US, AND THOSE WHO LIVE FOR THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF FOR HIM; BUT, HE  ESPECIALLY LOVES LESS THOSE IN HIS CREATION WHO DO NOT APPRECIATE THE SACRIFCE OF HIS SON YESHUA.  HE cannot stand certain things that we humans do, thus HE loves those people less.  HE loves to show favoritism to those who respect and love YESHUA and who DO HIS WILL and who love HIS truth enough to live for HIM.  He blesses those who bless HIM and HE curses those who curse HIM (Duet. 28, 29, 30) Just as one loves the good things that their child does, and we hate the sinful things that they do, we bless them according to their works of righteousness, and through it all, we will always love them regardless.

This is a hard concept, but, God is always 'Just' in HIS dealings with us.   IF HE IS THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END ALL AT THE SAME TIME ;) THEN HE CAN LOVE AND HATE ALL AT THE SAME TIME. :-* >:( ;)  GOD IS SPIRIT, and we cannot understand the lofty things of God fully, we are limited in our carnalness.  I hope this shed some light on the issue for you. 

gmik:
Anne, you need to listen to the tape several times.  I know I have to.

rrammfcitktturjsp:
Susan and Joe,

  Thanks.  Joe, thanks for posting the Greek word up, now I can go from that.

Susan,

  Hmmm, Your post shed some great light on my dilmema.  I have relistened to it and gleaned some other stuff. It is wonderful to know that I do not have to have any unrealisitc <sic> loving for some of the hard to love people.  What a freedom.  Susan, I could see the light just shining out of your eyes in the truck when you were talking about Ray's talk on love, and know I know why.  Thanks for being the ligh ontop of a hill for me, appreciate it.

  Yes, now I am beginning to comprehend where God says My ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts are higher than your thoughts.  Boy he sure was not kidding.   ;D  And I thought I was smart LOL.

  Sincerely,



  Anne C. McGuire

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