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lilitalienboi16:
I have a question. I read somewhere one time in Rays article that he said it was a shock to him to find out that KING DAVID DID NOT HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IN HIM. Now my question is, Did any of the OLD TESTIMENT people we read about have the HOLY SPIRIT IN THEM? Or was the holy spirit only revealed to the world after Jesus died and given to His disciples first?

Also i have another question, How does one know if he has the holy spirit in them? Shouldn't the HOLY SPIRIT be SPEAKING TRUTH ALWAYS? So how can so many people be claiming to be filled with the holy spirit and be Christians yet believe so many contrary doctrines (Contrary to the bible that is) and be all teaching different things? Shouldn't all those filled with the HOLY SPIRIT have the MIND OF CHRIST?

I'm just really starting to wonder, because i don't know if i have the HOLY SPIRIT because i havn't been through as much as any of you guys, and im still a pretty wicked and discusting person, terribly sinful and i hate myself for it but thats another story, so i don't know if i have the holy spirit or not.. have i recieved it yet? I mean i fully believe, im learning, im growing slowly but surely im tugging along and yea i stumble and fall over and roll back but then i try and get back up again and move on... So do i have the holy spirit? Can i be confident in knowing what i learn is revealed to me BY GOD, or am i still not filled with it yet because i am not matured?

Sorry for the long winded and probably repetative post... Thanks though for any answers :)

God bless you all :D

Alex

nightmare sasuke:

--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 ---I have a question. I read somewhere one time in Rays article that he said it was a shock to him to find out that KING DAVID DID NOT HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IN HIM.

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Wait...wait...wait... Did you read him correctly? I'm pretty sure David and all the Saints did have the Holy Spirit in them.

nightmare sasuke:

--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 ---
I'm just really starting to wonder, because i don't know if i have the HOLY SPIRIT because i havn't been through as much as any of you guys, and im still a pretty wicked and discusting person, terribly sinful and i hate myself for it but thats another story, so i don't know if i have the holy spirit or not.. have i recieved it yet?
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There are times I wonder if I have the Holy Spirit. However, if God has led you to come to his Truths, I'd say you have the Holy Spirit. But it takes a while to understand what He is telling you. However it's not for me to say, but God.

lilitalienboi16:
Is there anyway to know when we have teh holy spirit from scripture? Is it just by believing in Christ?

And yes im pretty sure i was correct in what i read. I could be wrong.. but i doubt it, i recall reading it like two times because i thought i misread it, but then again i could have read it wrong 2 times lol..

Someone can correct me if they know.

Craig:
O.K,

This is just my opinion, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, or if I contradict Ray.

If a person would tell me he is one of the chosen, or if I started to believe I was myself, then I would say that I/they are not the chosen.

Being the chosen of God is to be an overcomer, and overcoming is a life-long process.  We will know if we are chosen when we awaken at the first ressurection and not until.  I believe even in Paul's writings he doesn't  claim to be the chosen, he is hopeful and says he has done all he can do to overcome, and finish the race.

The spirit of God is in all of us, ALL.  I liken it to an old-time telephone that God supplies everyone with.  Sometimes God will make the call and we don't hear the ring or will not pick up and listen, and sometimes it remains silent.  Everyone doesn't like the phone God supplies and has to get themselves their own new-fangled phone with all the features, (it's called the Beast666 model)   Unfortunately that new phone will not receive God's calls very clearly but the world comes in loud and clear.   The overcomers I believe are getting rid of their new phone and listening for the ring of God and taking His calls on the old phone, they are ridding their life of the din of noise from the world so they can listen, loud and clear.

Overcoming  is a lifelong process and only God can direct us to the end, but we need to get out of the way and let His spirit guide us and quit wondering if we have the spirit or not, it is within us all.

Blessings!
Craig

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