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jennie:
I am confused again. first... God is not the failure, we are. Next, we have no choice to do good or bad? Those young guys who shot up that high school didn't have a choice about what they did? The people in the jails had no choice? In our area, meth is so bad. There are people on the roads who are cooking it or whatever they do to it on the engines of their cars. They have no choice to make that stuff? I don't make it. I try my best to be law abiding and so on. That is my choice , right?

snorky:
Jennie: I know this sounds all huff and puff and easy for me to say and all that, but you don't break the law the way some others do because God made you that way and the others the other ways, and so on. They do what they do because it's part of God's Plan...hey, I don't know why! But one thing is for sure--it wasn't your choice, you had no free will decision to be law abiding. Thank God you are, though. Take my word, I've been in jail (once when my baby girl was breast feeding!) and that was where God wanted me at the time...my little girl is just fine and always has been. You just have to understand that God puts everyone where He wants them for His Plan, yes, even the starving in 3rd world, the Katrina victims, folks with AIDS. You don't have to like what God does (surely Job didn't!), but you do have to accept that it'll all owrk out in the end.--Deb aka snorky

jennie:
It is still awful hard to understand

Sorin:

--- Quote from: Bradigans on February 20, 2007, 07:41:26 PM ---i'm not certain whether or not you've studied harvesting particularly wheat. There's the tassel, the chaff, the husk. Just let me tell you something. God is not a failure, and i'm not just saying this because i believe i'm a part of the wheat. God is the greatest sower that ever lived. He sowed something at pentecost, and through the seven church ages and in the seventh church age something is beginning to sprout. Isaiah 55:11 - So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. It certainly doesn't. Luke 8:11 - Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

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Bradford,

I know God is not a failure. That's what Copeland and Christianity teaches and thinks.



--- Quote from: Jennie ---I am confused again. first... God is not the failure, we are. Next, we have no choice to do good or bad? Those young guys who shot up that high school didn't have a choice about what they did? The people in the jails had no choice? In our area, meth is so bad. There are people on the roads who are cooking it or whatever they do to it on the engines of their cars. They have no choice to make that stuff? I don't make it. I try my best to be law abiding and so on. That is my choice , right?
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Jennie,

Again, I know God is not a failure. I never said He was, Copeland and Christianity did, and does. Also, Jennie, while it is true that those boys who shot up the school made the choice to shoot up the school, and all the other criminals made the choice to commit the crime. But what Scripture says, that 'none are good, none are seeking after God, all have gone astray'. So if 'none are good' that means that we can't do 'good'. It is by the Grace Of God that you and I aren't murderers and or child molesters, and so on. Because naturally, without God preventing it, there's no telling how low the carnal human mind might get.


Psa 14:3 They are all gone aside, they are [all] together become filthy: [there is] none that doeth good, no, not one.

Psa 53:3 Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; [there is] none that doeth good, no, not one.

Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.


There is none that does good, no, not even one. We must believe the scriptures.

Take care,
Sorin

jennie:
Agree completely.... God is no failure and there IS nothing we cand do that is good without God.Jennie

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