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bobf:
--- Quote from: Phazel ---I kinda revisited the question "What about those who have never heard of Christ"
I have never found any Christian with the ability to answer this question adequatly.
--- End quote ---
Isaiah 66:19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, [to] Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, [to] Tubal, and Javan, [to] the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles. 20 And they shall bring all your brethren [for] an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD.
Gill:
The more 'snippets' i see of how God will use the elect to bring in the rest of humanity into His family, the more i see why Paul was inspired to say:
Phi 3:14 With the goal in view, I press on for the prize of the upward calling of God in Christ Jesus.
How many times do we look at people and their situations, or simply watch the news and just want to somehow make it all better? Like everyone else here, i can only hope that i'll make it to the first resurrection ...long way to go for me. I can only echo Paul again:
Phi 3:13 Brethren! I, as to myself, reckon that I have, not yet, laid hold; one thing, however,-the things behind, forgetting, and, unto the things before, eagerly reaching out,
I wish i knew more about just how God's chosen will be used in this way.
Harryfeat:
--- Quote from: Gill ---The more 'snippets' i see of how God will use the elect to bring in the rest of humanity into His family, the more i see why Paul was inspired to say:
Phi 3:14 With the goal in view, I press on for the prize of the upward calling of God in Christ Jesus.
How many times do we look at people and their situations, or simply watch the news and just want to somehow make it all better? Like everyone else here, i can only hope that i'll make it to the first resurrection ...long way to go for me. I can only echo Paul again:
Phi 3:13 Brethren! I, as to myself, reckon that I have, not yet, laid hold; one thing, however,-the things behind, forgetting, and, unto the things before, eagerly reaching out,
I wish i knew more about just how God's chosen will be used in this way.
--- End quote ---
I share your views on this and agree it would be great if God wills us to be part of His elect. However, at the end of Christ's reign and God becomes "All in All" Will there really be any difference between the elect and the rest?
I don't really have a clue but seem to get to that same point where I have no control and should be happy with whatever God wills for me.
feat
Gill:
Hi feat,
yes, i have days where this feels more like my life:
--- Quote ---Rom 8:19 For, the eager outlook of creation, ardently awaiteth the revealing of the sons of God,
--- End quote ---
Which still brings its own comfort.
I agree, there's no point in wondering or rather worrying about whether we're chosen. It's not ours to know in this age. All that does is make us wonder things like 'well, what if i'm not chosen? what's the point of seeking the Lord and obeying the gospel in this age? Surely i'm going to fail'. If we don't obey the gospel and endure to the end, we were not chosen ...it's really a moot question and leads to much ](*,) .
I think it's also along the same line of questioning that many of us have before we understand the truth that God will save all, 'why give up sin if we're all going to be saved anyway?'. It's all carnal questioning that gets us nowhere.
I don't know whether there will be a difference between the elect and the rest of humanity at the end of the ages.
ertsky:
while i agree that it is important not to sit there with an attitude of
if i'm chosen i'm chosen if i'm not i'm not so i wont even bother
(what a wicked attitude)
i believe we should know whether we are in Christ or not maybe not immediately when we first meet Him, but eventually assurance should be ours, not that we could never fall away but that we are not reprobate
consider
Rom 8:15 for ye did not receive a spirit of bondage again for fear, but ye did receive a spirit of adoption in which we cry, `Abba--Father.'
Rom 8:16 The Spirit himself doth testify with our spirit, that we are children of God;
Rom 8:9 And ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God doth dwell in you; and if any one hath not the Spirit of Christ--this one is not His;
the enemy will always challenge our sonship just like he challenged the Lord.
Mat 4:3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
i would say we need to follow Jesus' example and refute Satans lies with the word.
Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
and i'm sure we could find more verses than these
PLEASE IF I'VE GOT THIS WRONG, CORRECT IT
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