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Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Friendindeed
 You ask :

I would like to know how you feel about this.   I feel sickened.


Is it True or False. It is FALSE


 I really want to know if there are any Scriptures to back up this Theory. I am not going against anything any one has said here in this thread because the scriptures do not contradict! There are no scriptures to how I understand this that endorse us to seek being positive without knowing Christ or putting Him first.....as is exemplified in the exchanges being shared in this thread so beautifully.

As far as I know there are NO scriptures that BACK UP this "therory" . as you relate it Friendindeed.

You will find several referrals in Scripture that will tell you what God thinks about demonology and what and how we are to respond to it too.  Demonology and heresy has PLENTY to back it up!...but not from God only from mis-led mankind.

You yourself seem to have come to an awareness that if Gods word does not back it then it is false. It is a real false teaching that says that man can, should or endeavour to positively think or will his way into a better life. The seduction of best seller books or most hightly paid women is what it is. A seduction.

No man has any say over where he was born, what gifts and talents he has given to him from God or when he will die. All is in the power and authority of God.

Ray's Myth of Free Will  gets the real truth in the open. Get into some real back up that pulls the illusion out of the deception and tears it up thorough real insight  in Gods Word and enjoy reading the rich  wisdom and truth about Gods word that is given freely and published on this site by Ray. If God has it in His plan, you will come to enjoy a deeper and richer comprehensive insight into HIS ways and thoughts. Don’t be deceived . There are many men and women trying to win favour of men at the cost of your Dollar. Rules  and role models of man or woman of the worldly ungodly high apsirants for worldly happiness, gratification and satisfaction.

Matt 23 : 13 But woe to you, scribes ( scribes....writers of books and theories on how to get better, be better, get higher and be higher ) and Pharisees,( Religious leaders) pretenders, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces: for you neither enter yourselves, ( they can not enter into the comprehensive understanding  and knowledge that God is Sovereign) nor do you allow those who are about to go in to do so.

Mtt 6 : 33 But seek, aim at and strive after first of all His kingdom and His righteousness: His way of doing and being right, (  His way of doing and being is Sovereign and the teaching on this is revealed and unveiled in the Myth of Free Will by Ray) and then all these things taken together will be given you besides.

Peace to you

Arcturus.
 :)

YellowStone:
Hello FriendIndeed and Arcturus :)

FriendIndeed wrote:

I was watching Oprah Friday and she had a guest on there talking about a DVD and Book entitle "The Secret."  The book is basically talking about positive thinking/visualization.  Meaning that if your more positive your life will be better.  I kind of agree with this,  because I have experience this in my personal life and I also try to tell people that things will be better if they would think more positively about their situation instead of being negative.  But now I would like to dig a little bit more deeper.  I would like to know how you feel about this.  Is it True or False.  I really want to know if there are any Scriptures to back up this Theory.

Arcturus  You said:

I really want to know if there are any Scriptures to back up this Theory. I am not going against anything any one has said here in this thread because the scriptures do not contradict! There are no scriptures to how I understand this that endorse us to seek being positive without knowing Christ or putting Him first.....as is exemplified in the exchanges being shared in this thread so beautifully.

As far as I know there are NO scriptures that BACK UP this "therory" . as you relate it Friendindeed.


Arcturus, let me answer you first in as kind and as gentle manner as a bother should. :)


Pro 15:13  A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.

Pro 15:14  The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness.

Pro 15:15  All the days of the afflicted [are] evil: but he that is of a merry heart [hath] a continual feast.


Let us take a closer look at the words "merry" and "cheerful"

Merry (sameach) [8056]

1) joyful, merry, glad
   a) joyful, showing joy
   b) you who rejoice (subst)


Cheerful (yatab) [3190]

1) to be good, be pleasing, be well, be glad

   a) (Qal)
      1) to be glad, be joyful
      2) to be well placed
      3) to be well for, be well with, go well with
      4) to be pleasing, be pleasing to

   b) (Hiphil)
      1) to make glad, rejoice
      2) to do good to, deal well with
      3) to do well, do thoroughly
      4) to make a thing good or right or beautiful
      5) to do well, do right

Arcturus my dear sister, I believe too that the Scriptures do not contradict, therefore, I see the above Scripture as proof that we should always be thankful and gracious in everything that we do. We should always seek first to be glad and joyful; we can be sorrowful yet still rejoice in the fact that we can deal well with any situation and turn it around and make it good, right or beautiful in a positive rather than a negative manner. :)

Pual speaks of this here:
2Cr 6:10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and [yet] possessing all things. 

Even though one may have nothing , we are are always to remain positive, gracious for what we do have, not saddened or disheartened for what we don't have. Surely if we follow always the teachings of a joyful heart, we will possess spiritual happiness as in "possesing all things."

Luk 12:27  Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

Luk 12:28 If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more [will he clothe] you, O ye of little faith?

Luk 12:29  And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.

Luk 12:30  For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things.

I see no evil or wrong in having a positive, uplifting and gracious attitude. :)

FriendIndeed, the world is so troubled over what it doesn't have, that it often forgets to think about what it does have. :)

Love to you both in Christ,

Darren

CEO:
Josh

   Great post.  Thinking positvely may not ensure succes but thinking negatively absolutely increases the likelihood of failure.  How could we have any greater positve than Jesus in us, joy abounding and the phenomenal incredible understanding of truth we are glimpsing now and will experience fully in the twinkling of an eye at the resurrection ?!

                                                        Askseeknock

                                                         Charles

snorky:
But just think, we can think positively because that's the way God made us! But on the other hand there are those (I know  few) who can never feel positive about anything (just leaa negative, you know what I mean?), again because God made them that way. So we need to thank God for, among so many other things and all things, for making us capable of positive thinking!--Deb aka snorky

YellowStone:
Great response Deb (Snorky)

All is of God. I do not find it hard to believe that God may be working inside of many people today, who in their childhood, totally rejected the church for the lies, untruths and fallacies it presented. These people are out of the Church, because they never got caught up in it her harlotness.

Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Such are these may be positive and uplifting and sadly ignorant by our standards, but who are we to question God for it is quite possible, the next newbie that joins this forum, comes from such as these and we will welcome this one with open arms and the love that only true followers of Christ can give.

We must NEVER forget that "we" did not find God, HE FOUND US!!  :) :)

Great post Deb,

Brotherly Love in Christ,
Darren

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