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hebrewroots98:
It is my belief that it is better to not give money to addicted ones. I have always felt that I would be judged for codepending those whom have a weakness for drugs instead of showing them tough love by not giving them money. Right now there is a freind in our life; a strong believer, but, he is so addicted to RX drugs (prescription drugs) as well as to narcotics issued tohim for his back pain...he has had a couple of back surguries an he cannot kick the habit from the drugs; although he has a a long history of drug abuse. He says that he needs it for the pain relief and he goes on a drinking binge every now and again as well, but, he says that God will heal him when God is ready to since he has done all that he can within himself to quit on his own and has failed. I am still leary of his reasoning for some reason. Lord forgive me if I am sounding judgemental and hard hearted toward him, but I just care about him to where I won' t help him to indulge himself and possibly hurt himself further. We have had to separate ourselves from him b/c we don't like the attitude that he has while under the influence. God calls it witchcraft, anything that alters the mind ???
hebrewroots98:
It is my belief that it is better to not give money to addicted ones. I have always felt that I would be judged for codepending those whom have a weakness for drugs instead of showing him tough love by not giving them money. Right now there is a freind in our life; a strong believer, but, he is so addicted to RX drugs (prescription drugs) as well as to narcotics issued tohim for his back pain...he has had a couple of back surguries an he cannot kick the habit from the drugs. He says that he needs it for the pain relief and he goes on a drinking binge every now and again, but, he says that God will heal him when God is ready to since he has done all that he can within himself to quit on his own and has failed. I am still leary of his reasoning for some reason. Lord forgive me if I am sounding judgemental and hard hearted toward him, but I just care about him to where I won' t help him to indulge himself and possibly hurt himself further.
Jackie Lee:
--- Quote from: gmik on February 26, 2007, 08:38:11 PM ---JackieLee, it is particularly hard to know what to do when its family and not strangers.
Some people God blessed w/ sweet, loving natures. Others (of us) have to really work at showing Gods love to people-it doesn't come natural. There are heathens by the millions that do plenty of loving, volunteer work and really live a sacrificial life.
When living close to God, in His Word, obeying what you can, praying, then He gives you the opportunity to help others or He leads you to not help-each situation is different. We often go by past experience, common sense, or that strong leading we get from Him (if we are listening). Sometimes isn't it just a matter of how much $$ you have at the time.
But wanting to help, living to help, developing a giving heart, all takes time & energy, and it won't happen if God isn't teaching you. Maybe we need to see idols in our heart to learn some things.
We've all been stung and we've all been blessed. Its all HIM.
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gmik I agree there are times now I would like to help a couple of people in my family but my husband is against it.
My mother is up in years and if she needs I help her.
My husband will say so and so is able bodied to work and needs to stick with a job, which is true but I can't help but feel sorry for them if they are in need.
My husband is against helping others.
My husband and I combine our income so it is hard to slip anything past him, not that I should really.
I have to say it makes me sad to see people in need but my husband says it is their fault, he is probably right.
I am learning to listen to God and try not let my emotions rule me like they have.
Jackie Lee:
--- Quote from: hebrewroots98 on February 26, 2007, 09:03:57 PM ---It is my belief that it is better to not give money to addicted ones. I have always felt that I would be judged for codepending those whom have a weakness for drugs instead of showing him tough love by not giving them money. Right now there is a freind in our life; a strong believer, but, he is so addicted to RX drugs (prescription drugs) as well as to narcotics issued tohim for his back pain...he has had a couple of back surguries an he cannot kick the habit from the drugs. He says that he needs it for the pain relief and he goes on a drinking binge every now and again, but, he says that God will heal him when God is ready to since he has done all that he can within himself to quit on his own and has failed. I am still leary of his reasoning for some reason. Lord forgive me if I am sounding judgemental and hard hearted toward him, but I just care about him to where I won' t help him to indulge himself and possibly hurt himself further.
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I do agree with you when my sister was on drugs it was so obvious to everyone but me.
I now refuse to give money to her and so does my husband now.
The bad thing is he thinks after this experience we shouldn't help no one.
He believes if someone is hungry it is their fault, I haven't gotten to that point.
Not that we can help a large amount but I always want too fix things.
I believe this is one of my weaknesses and God is helping me.
It is a control issue with me I want to fix people and God showed me I needed fixing.
That was an eye opener for me.
YellowStone:
Hi Everyone :)
Christ's Second Commandment is to Love your neighbor as yourself. Is this not the same as loving your neighbor as God loves us? I think it is. :)
And similarly we may ask God for what we want instead of what we need and be ignored by our loving Father; however, he will always give us what we truly need. I was really moved by Arcturus's story about telling the young mother to wash herself and her baby, to clean up. This is most certainly not what she was wanting, but invariably what she needed and the love what Arcturus showed should be as an example for us all.
Loving our neighbor does not necessarily mean being "lovey dovey" to each other; rather it is the helping and of a true friend. :)
We too, do not hand out money; rather we give food, clothing etc. Sometimes, all that is really needed is a warm, gentle smile. I know such as this has made my day on more than one occasion.
Great discussion! :)
Darren
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