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What religios in Babylon?
DWIGHT:
Hi All,
I really appreciate all the wisdom that everyone has shared on this topic. I would like to give it a little different angle and just see what you think.
The more I realize what Ray has said about the the scriptures being one, and that the words that our Lord speaks are spirit, the more I see that this Mystery Babylon is something we are in the process of coming out of. Just like salvation is a process and enduring to the end, so is coming out of Babylon.
The beast, the kings on seven mountains, the sea, the earth, the plagues, the great whore, Babylon, etc., all are in us. It's easy to see that Babylon is the church on the corner or the TBN preachers or "Christianity." But these things in Revelation are really in us. We don't wrestle against John Hagee or Dr. Kennedy, but we wrestle against principalities, against the rulers of the darkness of this world. These principalities and rulers of the darkness are in our flesh. That's why Ray said that he never had a problem with these brothers, his problem is the false doctrines that they teach. And these doctrines come from their flesh,where all the things in Revelation dwell.
These are the physical things of Revelation but they really have a spiritual meaning. Satan is a master of deceit. His deceitfullness is never obvious but is always close to the truth. That's why God shows us in the scriptures some examples of how close Satan can be to the truth. In Genesis, the first Pharoah was a type of God who because of Joseph found favor with Israel. The next Pharoah knew not Joseph. There was a first Adam and the last Adam. There is the Lion of the tribe of Judah, and there is a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, there is the lamb of God slain before the foundation of the world and in Revelation there is another lamb, "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon." Rev. 13:11
Like a lamb but he spake as a dragon, we can always tell them by the words or doctrines if they are the true lamb or not. Jesus said that my sheep hear my voice....not the voice of the dragon. We have to have His ears and His eyes because we could be deceived just like everyone else.
Well,I'll stop here...just some thoughts for all of us.
God bless,
Dwight
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Dwight
That is beautifully written!.... I see that this Mystery Babylon is something we are in the process of coming out of.
This makes perfect sense to me! Just like non are Elect in this life, non are born again or saved until Jesus Christ returns and for now we have the deposit of His Spirit as He continues His work to transform us to His image which will be His likeness revealed when He comes again. More reason to anticipate with excitement and hope and due dilligence, His return!
Peace to you brother and thank you for your thoughts.
Arcturus :)
chuckt:
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Yeah, 'CONFUSSION'. I went through it but I had enough :P! I went to pagan's religious, then Assembly of God then Southern Baptist. It was very strong confusion that I cannot tell until God removed my spiritual blindness. I was extremely stunned. But now I'm glad to know truth, I mean the solid truth ;D.
Brett
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as it was in the beginning so shall it be in the end
babylon= babel which literal means "confusion by mixing"
what was confused at that great city of babel? ((language))
and so it is today, christianity is confused my mixing.
words like, hell,heaven, eternal, for ever , everlasting, torment,god punishment, JUSTICE, world, age...ETC
have all been mixed with modern day and greek definitions and meanings.
guess what else is mixed today?
grace/law
old/new
physical/ spiritual
all these follow the confusion of laugauge and interpretation of the translation of sacred scripture.
God bless all IN YESHUA
chuckt
Kat:
Hi Dwight,
Yes, your point has very well brought out the reality that once we 'come out of her My people' physically and literally leave the church, we must also continue to purge those false doctrines.
--- Quote ---It's easy to see that Babylon is the church on the corner or the TBN preachers or "Christianity." But these things in Revelation are really in us. We don't wrestle against John Hagee or Dr. Kennedy, but we wrestle against principalities, against the rulers of the darkness of this world. These principalities and rulers of the darkness are in our flesh.
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Most of us spent years in the church learning the ways of the flesh, now it will take a long process for it all to be removed, like the rest of our lives ;)
I don't think we even realize we are holding on to some of the false teachings, it has become our way of thinking. But God will show us the error of it in time, because it all does have to be purged.
chuckt, interesting. I do see what you are saying, they do mix and confuse everything :-\
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
Brett:
Very well, Dwight and Kat. What a great insight!
Come out of her is processing, yes. After come out of her is to removing our spiritual blindness to see the truth. We now know the Christendom's doctrine are useless. But, we still have learning the new truth in spiritual way that we never had taught by Babylon in long years. Before we came out, we thought we understand God's word (in flesh things), yet we never did understood God's words in spiritual. So, we have God's spiritual in us and enable us to understand His words. Not like one day but to processing in us just as purging us from the false doctrines. You know, without God in us we would never understand God's Spirit words.
Thank you for the insight.
Brett
P.S. thanks for being patient with my poor language ;).
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