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What religios in Babylon?
Sorin:
Exactly Chris R, Christendom calls Jesus "Lord, Lord" not The Muslims and not the Jews, Pagans, The World System, etc....
And God's people wouldn't be Muslims, or Jews, but those who believe upon his {Jesus'} name. Since it says "COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE it's talking about the Folllowers of Christ, they're in Babylon, every single church you see, all the christian radio stations, and tv channels, that's Babylon.
Being all clean cut, with a suit and tie asking for money while people are starving in other countries [and some in this country], that's Babylon. How many christians do you know that are not all 'clean cut' and think themselves better than others? They do all these physical things, as if God would be impressed with how clean and shaved he is on the outside.
Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Luk 11:39 And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.
That's Babylon. I've a uncle who is a diehard Pentecostal, and all his male kids have their hair cut nearly bald, as if it's a "sin" to have it a little longer, or as if that somehow impresses God. ::)
That's Babylon. They clean the bowl on the outside, they {Pentecostals} think that if you never drink even a sip of wine, or beer, then you are in God standing with God. And if you do take a sip, you're not. I still can't get them to believe that Jesus even drank wine, and that drinking in and of it'sself is not a sin. now there's nothing wrong with not drinking alcohol, but to say that it's a sin to do so, even at a wedding, or a special occasion is preposterous.
The worst one, was they asked my why am I wearing a bracelet around my arm, that it's a sin to wear a bracelet. I asked him why is he wearing a Rolex watch? He said "to have a way of knowing what time it is"
I said, you're cell phone tells you the time, you don't "need the watch eighter". So a bracelet is a sin because it's only for style, design, but a $10k Rolex is not because it tells you the time, even though you have a cell phone which also tells you the time? See the hypocrisy, and judgemental attitude that 'caused me to have second thoughts after I became a Christian? And this is only a minor example of Babylon. if you didn't show up in a Mercedes or BMW you were looked down upon, yes, at church mind you. Don't you know God only cares about the rich? ::)
Sorin.
YellowStone:
Sorin wrote:
That's Babylon. They clean the bowl on the outside, they {Pentecostals} think that if you never drink even a sip of wine, or beer, then you are in God standing with God. And if you do take a sip, you're not. I still can't get them to believe that Jesus even drank wine, and that drinking in and of it'sself is not a sin. now there's nothing wrong with not drinking alcohol, but to say that it's a sin to do so, even at a wedding, or a special occasion is preposterous.
The worst one, was they asked my why am I wearing a bracelet around my arm, that it's a sin to wear a bracelet. I asked him why is he wearing a Rolex watch? He said "to have a way of knowing what time it is"
I said, you're cell phone tells you the time, you don't "need the watch eighter". So a bracelet is a sin because it's only for style, design, but a $10k Rolex is not because it tells you the time, even though you have a cell phone which also tells you the time? See the hypocrisy, and judgemental attitude that 'caused me to have second thoughts after I became a Christian? And this is only a minor example of Babylon. if you didn't show up in a Mercedes or BMW you were looked down upon, yes, at church mind you. Don't you know God only cares about the rich?
Well said Sorin!!! (Standing Applause!!!) :)
The hypocrisy of the church is staggering and they are so conceited they will never see it unless God (the same God they profess to worship) intercedes and opens their hearts. :)
Great Post!! :)
Your Brother in Christ,
Darren
jennie:
Hey ya'll, I just have to say again that our little church is not like that. We have no gloriuos building must a concrete block structure. We don't care what people wear, what they drive, how their hair is or how much money they have. We live in a pretty poor and rural area and our goal is "whatever it takes" meaning whatever we can do do it for God's glory to help others. We each family brings food that we keep there to have on hand in case anybody come by needing groceries. On special holidays we take dinner to our police officers who are working, fireman and so on. We just try to love the Lord with all our hearts and to "be Jesus with skin on" to anyone. Jennie
carol v:
My ex-presbyterian minister doesn't understand God's sovereignty and plan so he teaches that the Word is full of the superstitions and interpretations of ancient men. He also teaches it's the Word of God. If you try to pin him down on which is the Word of God and which is the superstitions of man, he shrugs and rolls his eyes.
I have had long discussions with a Presbyterian who is very close to me who seems to be on the brink of seeing things, and this minister will come in as a fowl of the air and eat every single seed planted. God's counsel and will of course.
Jennie, does your church believe in the salvation of all and the sovereignty of God? I'm curious because I am still the only "one" I know in my whole town of 10,000.
carol v
jennie:
We do believe wholeheartedly in the sovereignty of God and that Jesus sacrificed for all so that all our sins are covered by the sacrificial blood of Jesus.
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