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Sorin:
This is taken from the email section, orignally titled: Mr Ray ( I need Some Help)

My name is Viviane.
Catholic by family tradition, married a Baptist (we never consider tithe).
Never experienced Jesus Christ, but read the Bible anyway.
ONE DAY a friend invited me to a church in which I  felt a HOLY presence, and instantly was heal from glaucoma (I have suffered for a long time).
I took early retirement and went on a fast and prayer and reading, and reading ...
During one of the fasting I saw a place that I could only describe as hell (pure horror).
I have been out of my body.
I have seen angelical angels.
I have seen demons (they are more real than your imagination)
There is a Gehena if you want to get technical.
Satan is master of lies and he inserts ideas into your mind .
I have experienced tithing and WORKS in a Spirit Filled Church (you place your seed in good ground)
SIR, I ACTUALLY HAVE EXPERIENCED ALL THE ABOVE AND I WAS AN UNBELIEVER.
I URGE YOU.  GO ON A FAST AND ASK GOD TO REVEAL TO YOU (DON'T BE DECEIVE).
I FOUND INTERESTING THAT HE REVEALS HIMSELF TO ME, AND NOT TO YOU WHO APPEAR TO KNOW SOMETHING...TO THE UNLEARNED.

BESIDES, YOU ARE MISSING OUT FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM (IF YOU ONLY KNEW...)

I pray that God will give you a desire to seek HIM not in anger against a church or people, but to
seek HIS face.  So you might know real love. YOU ARE ANGRY AND IT SHOWS.

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I believe that she is lying through through her teeth! Was instantly healed of glaucoma? Has been out of her body? Has seen hell?
Gehenna's flames have been extinguished for thousands of years. The only way she could have been alive, still conscious and out of her body is if God lied when He said "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing...."
Ecc 9:5

And also:

 "Ecc 9:10      Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do [it] with thy might; for [there is] no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest."

So if she was out of her body, then we have to assume she was dead, and if she was dead, then she could not have known anything at all, unless the Scrptures are false.
How useless would it be for God to say that there is no work, no device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom in the grave wither thou goest if He was only talking about, for your body, this shell that you leave behind [according to the christian/pagan immortal soul theory]? It would be less than useless, God is saying when you die, you know not anything. Not just your body knows not anything, but you, your whole being, whatever you want to believe is the thing that gives you consciousness right now, that, that's dead, and you have no more conciouness until the resurrection.

So you have to contradict all that in order to have an conscious "out of body" experience.

And how does she figure that Ray is angry? Can she see and or hear him? And can just tell, boy that guy is steaming mad?




Peace,
Sorin

Craig:
She proved she was a liar to me when she made the subject of the email what she did.

"I need some help"


Normally I change the subject line of an email to match what is being talked about, but in her case I left it alone to show she lied from the first word she wrote..

Craig

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Sorin

Nhaa....she is tripping out on mushrooms or something! ;D Sometimes you do not need mushrooms you just need Mystery Babylon and to drink from Her cup!....Babylon is right behind the illusions and deceptions in errors that resonate right through this persons e-mail.

She is a God hater and does not know it yet. She will find out!

As for her experiences in her mind, they may be real but they do not set her free they bind her to deception and she has a majority that agree with her. She is one of the many.........I do not think she even knows that she lies. She believes the lie is the truth. We all did at one time! She is a strong advocate. Reminds me of how I used to be ;D   ;D  She neither knows the scriptures or the power of God, she only thinks she does!.....She will find out!....she will. Everyone will see the truth and some will be shattered and go away gnashing their teeth and weeping....

If God doesn't reach in and dragg her away, we know where she is heading don't we.....LOF...weeping...into darkness....for correction.....

.... I too have seen an angel.  I was about 8 years old. I too have seen a demon.  Never saw hell though....or heaven.... ;D  ;D the most important thing I have seen in all my life....is right here in Bible Truths and that is THE TRUTH!

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

rrammfcitktturjsp:
Hee hee hee,

  Arcturus, You beat me to it.

  Sincerely,




  Anne C. McGuire

Sorin:
Hi Arcturus,

 You said you've seen a angel? What did he/she/it look like? 
It would be great if you were willing to describe what you saw to us.
Also the demon.

Peace,
Sorin

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