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Followers of Ray.
Prosizz:
I like the fact that Sorin posted it just because it helps us realize that Ray is just a vessel and it is God who is actually teaching us. It is a reminder for us to beware of cult of personality. The tendency to Adore Ray because of the gift God bestowed on him is ever present as it is in every walk of life when people are worship because of a gift or a talent received from God.
dogcombat:
EXCELLENT Point Pro
Ches
skydreamers:
I don't see myself as a follower of Ray either but more of a follower of the wisdom and insight God has graciously bestowed on him. I feel tremendously blessed for the opportunity to take advantage of this. It's not as if these truths were given to him all at once in one unbelievable prophetic vision. According to Ray, much struggle, time, prayer, reflection and study has been involved in what he's learned. I know I cannot bypass everything, but if God can use Ray to show me and others truths in a fraction of the time God took to show it to Ray, then PRAISE GOD! I know I still need to have patience but I'm getting up there in age and I don't want to waste anymore time believing lies, so studying Ray's material is like a well illustrated map to all the treasures...you still have to do the work in hunting (studying Ray's material and looking up all the scripture) but at least you have a guide to point you in the right direction.
Ray says it so well himself in this email:
Dear Ambrose:
I sometimes spent five or ten hours on one word or phrase in the Scriptures. Sometimes weeks. Sometimes I entertain a thought or Scriptural phrase FOR YEARS AND YEARS before God opens my understanding to it. Then I take twenty minutes to write it down in a paragraph. Why would not rather read my paragraph than take YEARS AND YEARS to come to the same understanding by your own independent study? I wish I had someone to go to like me to learn the things that often take me years to learn. Have you read all of the material on my site at least three times? Do you UNDERSTAND all of the material on my site? Then maybe you need to start reading again. Paul told timothy to STUDY. If it didn't require study, then I don't think Paul would have told Timothy to study, nor would Paul have (in his old age) requested that they bring him the scrolls that he left behind. Also trust me when I tell you that a lot of great study tools will not teach you the truths of the Scriptures . Most Bible Scholars have a hundred times more Biblical study aids than I have. Only God can show you His Truths. Study aids can help verify those truths, but those study aids will not teach you spiritual truths.
God be with you,
Ray
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3700.0.html
Peace and God Bless, Diana
hillsbororiver:
Excellent post Diana,
Thank you,
Joe
Patrick:
There is not a problem adoring Ray if you look at it from this definition of the word.
Main Entry: adore
3 : to be extremely fond of <adores pecan pie>
Ray = pecan pie
--- Quote from: Kat on March 05, 2007, 12:14:34 AM ---
I look on Ray as a brother in Christ. He knows a great deal more than I, so I study what he writes to learn what the scriptures say. Maybe in a way I am a follower/imitator of Ray, because I would like to imitate how he serves Christ. Ray studies and works on his papers constantly, hours every day. As Paul said;
1Co 11:1 Be imitators of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Christ is first in my life, anyone that helps me get closer to Christ is someone I want to be apart of my life. I am so blessed to know Ray, but he is not like a leader or superior, he's my friend.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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Awesome response, Kat.
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