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Is everything in the Bible a parable ?
mrsnacks:
I heard Ray say this. THe Bible is a parable to us.
I know that the scriptures tell us that the natural man cannot understand the spiritual things unless they have the spirit of God in them. So what is hidden ?
I know that the average Joe on the street can come with an explanation of the meaning behind the stories of the Bible and the lessons God is actually teaching. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out much less a christian. But I thinking it has to be deeper than that. For example many will read Genesis and all agree that this is the story of creation of the universe and God creating man and the fall etc. BUt it is deeper than that. That is what is taught in church and it seems very surface to me. If it is a parable than what is the meaning? What is God saying ? Thanks
rick:
the first shall be last and the last shall be first!!!!!! and I believe that is what the whole of scriptures teach us.....rick
Kat:
Hi mrsnacks,
This email of Ray's address your question.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2891.0.html -------------
Hi ray,
Thanks for the encouragement.. can you tell me what you mean when you say all of the scriptures are a parable?
Thanks,
Dave
Dear Dave:
Well, not really, not in less than a hour or so, but I'll give you a hint. God is the Creator. He made everything. He made everthing for a purpose. There is one grand goal that God has for the entire human race. The Christian Church has not a CLUE as to what that goal is or how it will be accomplish. The whole plan and purpose is outlined in the Scriptures. But just as NONE of the people who heard Jesus teach in parables, understood His parables, so the Whole Bible is one GIANT parable which the Church does not understand. In a nutshell: God is creating the human race into HIS VERY OWN SPIRITUAL IMAGE. Oh, I thought that already was accomplished back in the Garden, wasn't it? I told you it's all one GIANT PARABLE!
God be with you,
Ray
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If you go to 'Introductions and Announcements and more of Ray's Teachings.'
Then go to 'Forum indexes and info.'
Then you can go to 'Categorized llist of Ray's email.'
And there you will see a long list of Ray's emails and there is one category on 'Parables,'
this has a lot of different emails you can read whenever you so desire.
Here's a quick link,
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3108.0.html
Hope this helps :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
YellowStone:
Kathy my dear sister,
I must be slow or something, and perhaps this should be directed to Ray himself; but.....
When Ray says: "so the Whole Bible is a GIANT parable" What exactly is he meaning?
The Hebrew word for Parable is mashal {maw-shawl'} [4912] and is given the meaning of
1) proverb, parable
a) proverb, proverbial saying, aphorism
b) byword
c) similitude, parable
d) poem
e) sentences of ethical wisdom, ethical maxims
The Greek word for the same is parabole {par-ab-ol-ay'} [3850]
1) a placing of one thing by the side of another, juxtaposition, as of ships in battle
2) metaph.
a) a comparing, comparison of one thing with another, likeness, similitude
b) an example by which a doctrine or precept is illustrated
c) a narrative, fictitious but agreeable to the laws and usages of human life,
by which either the duties of men or the things of God, particularly the
nature and history of God's kingdom are figuratively portrayed
d) a parable: an earthly story with a heavenly meaning
3) a pithy and instructive saying, involving some likeness or comparison and having preceptive or admonitory force
a) an aphorism, a maxim
4) a proverb
5) an act by which one exposes himself or his possessions to danger, a venture, a risk
From this I can understand how Christ spoke / talked.
Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
However; if one is to take Ray's words verbatim, then the story of Christ himself, must also be a parable. As in not real, but rather an aphorism, or a maxim. :(
The Compact Oxford English Dictionary does not distance itself from the above renderings.
Parable
• noun a simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson.
— ORIGIN Latin parabola ‘comparison, discourse, allegory’, from Greek parabole (see PARABOLA).
Surely no one here believes that the story of Christ or for that matter the ancient patriarchs are nothing more than stories used to illustrate a spiritual lesson?
Please help, for quite frankly, I am lost and confused. :(
Your brother in Christ,
Darren
Oh, found this after a little research only to dig my hole deeper :(
Ray writes: http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2834.0.html
A parable is a physical story which points to a SPIRITUAL TRUTH. As God creates "A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH," just what is there about this present heaven and earth that will "LITERALLY" last eternally? Besides I did not say that "The Bible is One Giant FICTION," now did I? No, I said that the Bible is one giant PARABLE. And the contents of a parable (not the Bible, but a PARABLE, are fictitious. ALL of the "literal" history, etc., in the Bible is NOT THE REAL THING. It is merely the ways and means TO THE REAL THING, which is Spiritual. "First that which is natural; and AFTERWARD that which is SPIRITUAL" (I Cor. 15:46).
Does "ALL of the "literal" history, etc., in the Bible is NOT THE REAL THING." mean that the literal history of David; his lineage to Christ and then the twelve apostles including Paul, just fictious? :( :(
This has turned into a very dark day :(
Perhaps I am a fictious brother.
Darren
Jackie Lee:
I don't understand the first shall be last and the last be first.
I know it sounds self explainatory but could you explain? :) Thanks
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