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andrevan:
Hi mrsnacks
I'm not sure if your Preterist view is this same as this person's below, but I found Ray's reply rather interesting, which you may want to consider:
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Hi, thanks for having the guts to put this site out there, I can see you're thoughts have made many people angry .But a few out there have been thinking the same things.
Just a comment about your recent article on the world trade towers .Being a preterist, I believe that all old testiment scripture was fulfiled with the comming of Christ to 70AD
I really don't see the need for reading current events into scripture at all .I was a dispensationalist for a long time and God showed me how messed up that was . But as far as "The age to come" aren't there really only two ages? The mosaic and the messianic? isn't the age of the messiah never to end? When paul writes "We are in the last days" Who was he talking to way back then,Us? Didn't the mosaic age end with the distruction of the temple and all it's liniage records in 70 AD? Will there be greater disasters ? Probably. Al Gore's movie made a very convincing case that we could be seeing disasterous storms never before seen as a result of our own stupidity. Could the world end ? One asteroid is all it takes and there's millions of 'em out there.
does it have anything to do with biblical prophesy? For the moment ,I Doubt it.
Dear Eric:
Are you sure you are living on the same earth as I am, Eric? You state, "Being a preterist, I believe that all old testiment scripture was fulfiled with the comming of Christ to 70AD."
"ALL the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: AND all the kindredsof the nations SHALL WORSHIP BEFORE THEE" (Psalm 22:27). This happened in 70 AD? I thought that some Mulsims recently flew some planes into the World Trade Center? An act of "worship" toward the God of Israel?
"Yea ALL KINGS shall fall down before Him: ALL NATIONS shall serve Him" (Psalm 72:11). Is that what Titus did in 70 AD? Fall down and worship the God of Israel?
"ALL NATIONS whom Thou has made shall come and WORSHIP befoe Thee, O Lord, and shall GLORIFY THY NAME" (Psalm 86:9). Is that why they Hung Saddam Hussein yesterday? For "glorifying the name of the Lord?"
All these nations and kings have done all these things prophecied by 70 AD? And I'm still in the book of Psalms--there are hundreds more.
God be with you,
Ray
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If the mark is literal and physical as Christendom declares, where and who is this physical beast that is making or assisting people to receive this mark at this time? For a microchip to be The Mark, we clearly need a Beast that literally sits in the physical temple do we not?
I agree with Ray's teaching, I've seen the beast and it is me, just need to figure out what exactly the spiritual mark could be... any ideas anyone?
God bless.
Andrevan.
Kat:
Hi mrsnacks,
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2807.0.html ------------
Dear Paula:
Think for just a moment. Who would receive this "mark." Why EVERYONE. So therefore, EVERYONE could "buy and sell," couldn't they? This is all RELIGIOUS NONSENSE, Paula. It is the Church that is filling people's heads with this nonsense. The mark is not a literal mark, or tatoo, or imbedded computer chip. Besides, why would we need one on our hand AND ON OUR FOREHEAD? This is all symbolism. Read my "Lake of Fire" series for explanations of many of these symbols.
God be with you,
Ray
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Here is the scripture I think most think of when referring to this mark of the beast.
Rev 14:9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
But actually the elect will receive something on their forehead also.
Rev 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.
What I beleive this is talking about is what is inside the forehead, our mind. A person is carnal minded and of the world or have the mind of Christ.
This is an excerpt from Ray article 'WHERE IS THE CHURCH THAT JESUS BUILT?' in the Lake of Fire series.
http://bible-truths.com/lake8.html ----------------------------------------
We abide and dwell in Christ and Christ abides and dwells and lives HIS LIFE in us, so that we will "go no more out," till at the consummations of all the ages, "God may be ALL in All" (I Cor. 15:28).
"And I will write upon him the NAME OF MY GOD, and the NAME OF THE CITY of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God: and I will write upon him MY NEW NAME."
That’s CHRIST! These are honors and rewards bestowed upon us by Christ. The 144,000 (12 x 12, complete foundational kingdom of God’s government for the new world) are given the Father’s name in their foreheads (Rev. 14:1 & 22:4). Not a tattoo on the forehead skin, but inside their foreheads, in their hearts and minds.
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Phi 2:5 "For let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,"
Hope this helps.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
hebrewroots98:
Pperfect y'all. Thanks for this, I neede to be refreshed here.
YellowStone:
Well, it seems I need to clarify my stance taken earlier. :)
The Church will see it as a Mark, because they have not begiven the eyes and ears to understand the truth.
Hence my comment on, do not be concerned. It does not affect us.
I apologize if my post was taken wrongly. :)
Love to all,
Darren
Kat:
Hi Darren,
I'm with you, there is nothing to be concerned about :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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