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YellowStone:
Good morning All, :)

I have something to share with you all that came to me last night. Several weeks ago I became very sick; fever, muscle ache and total fatigue. It took about a month to get over it. Well Saturday afternoon, for no apparent reason it returned. :)

I knew there had to be a reason for it to come back, not physical but spiritual. God was trying to tell me something. Well of course I prayed for understanding and that I would get better. Here was the catch. I needed to get better for an event today that had been planned for several weeks. All the while, I was praying, I was adding "if it is your will" and never believing that God would actually do anything, what with his busy schedule and all.

Well last night, I was running another fever (101) and I could hardly move without something hurting. So I started praying to God. It was quite funny actually, because I told him that I had "no idea" what his message was. Then it hit me right betweeen the eyes; I had to "believe" Not in God's time, but the time I requested of him. What a revelation that turned out to be, I laughed at my ignorance. My fever broke less than 5 minutes later, I no longer have a sore throat or muscle ache, etc.

Christ himself said:

Jhn 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

He is there for us, all we have to do is BELIEVE. It is not wrong to ask for something we need, but it is wrong to NOT expect it to happen, for there is little faith in that. For four days I prayed, and only got worse, the moment that I believed (KNEW) God would heal/cure my ailments by this morning, the healing began.

So my brothers and Sisters, I had to share this with you all. I learned a very valuable lesson. Many of you may have already knew this, but the light sure went on for me. :)

Love in Christ,
Darren

Redbird:
Darren,

HOW MARVELOUS FOR YOU!!!

Mathew 13:58  And he did NOT MANY MIGHTY WORKS there because of their UNBELIEF.
Mark 6:5-6       And he could there do NO MIGHTY WORK, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. 
                      And he marveled because of their UNBELIEF.  And he went round about the villages, teaching.

Mathew 9:27-28  And when he came into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus said unto them, BELIEVE ye that I am
                         able to do this? They said unto him, YEA, LORD. Then touched he their eyes, saying, ACCORDING TO YOUR
                         FAITH be it unto you.
2 Th  2:13          But we are bound to give thanks always TO GOD for you, brethren beloved of the LORD, because God hath from
                         the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and BELIEF OF THE TRUTH;

My heart rejoices in your new found revelation.
Lisa

rrammfcitktturjsp:
Darren,

  YOu have hit on a great Truth.  You have found out one of the secrets to time, in the fact it does NOT exist, and that all time is the here and now for God.  So that when we go to him in prayer, it is answered.  I am not sure if I am offline here, but I do not think so.  Thanks for sharing this with us.

  Glad you are feeling better.

  Sincerely,




  Anne C. McGuire

YellowStone:
:) :) Thank you both so much Lisa and Anne :) :)

Lisa, the Scripture you presented is wonderful.

2 Th  2:13          But we are bound to give thanks always TO GOD for you, brethren beloved of the LORD, because God hath from
                         the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and BELIEF OF THE TRUTH;

For how strong is my belief if I do not believe my prayers will be answered. I have read quite often on this board, that we shouldn't pray for anything unless it is God's own Will that it should happen.

Brothers and Sisters, I feel that this in itself is possibly the GREATEST fallacy reagarding true faith known.

For Christ did not say:  If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you, providing my Father and I feel that you are worthy. :)
 
That is a limitation placed on prayer in order to justify ones limited faith. While ever, one closes in prayer with "but I expect this only if it is according to your will." Clearly demonstrates that one does not believe what was asked will be granted. What we are truly telling God, is that "I do not really expect you to grant my wishes, so I will be politically correct and close with only if you want to!" Guess what, faith like this get's what faith like this deserves....God perhpas say's: "okay, I don't want!"

Faith IS NOT CONDITIONAL my brothers and sisters. Christ posed no limitations on prayer other than belief and faith without belief is as nothing.

Jhn 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Anne, you too have hit on a wonderful truth. God is ageless inasmuch as time indeed does not exist for Him. How could it, he is outside the confines of time.

Dear brothers and sisters, comments are truly welcome regarding this truhful revelation. :)

Love in Christ to all,
Darren

Craig:

--- Quote ---For Christ did not say:  If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you, providing my Father and I feel that you are worthy.
--- End quote ---

If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you

Darren you answered your question right there.  If you are of Christ and Chist is in you, then your prayers will be such that they will be answered.  If that is not the case, then you can pray and have all the faith you can muster and if it is not God's will, it ain't going to happen.  Very few times are any of us, of Christ and Christ in us.  We strive for this and labor under the yoke of our carnal being, but our flesh, is too often the case, not one with Christ.


--- Quote ---but I expect this only if it is according to your will
--- End quote ---

Isn't this what Christ prayed in the Garden, not my will but the Fathers will?  Obviously Christ was at His weakest in the human flesh and he did not want to die the horrible death He did, could the Father have answered the prayer to let the cup pass from Him?  Yes, did he? No.  Because in this moment of weakness Christ knew that the Fathers will would be done.

Ray's prayer article does a wonderful job (I believe) in explaining prayer.

Blessings
Craig

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