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Pastor's view on tithing

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Flipper:
Wow that is awesome!  I have been searching High and Low for that line of demarcation between LAW and GRACE

 

josh:
My pleasure Bev. Glad to help anytime.

Bev:

--- Quote ---Wow that is awesome!  I have been searching High and Low for that line of demarcation between LAW and GRACE.
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Flipper, I'm not completely certain of what you're referring to but as far as grace is concerned Galatians 5:5 says - For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

THE SPIRIT speaks on this forum.

keys2heaven:
Since posting this thread, the past two Sunday's have really led me to believe that God is getting my attention. Tithing has been a hot topic and, in fact, our assistant pastor came out and stated point blank to the congregation that he wanted to talk about the SCRIPTURAL basis for tithing.

I was walking off of the platform after singing with the praise group when I heard him say this. A part of me wanted to stop right there and state emphatically before the congregation that there is no such SCRIPTURAL basis for new testament believers to tithe. It amazing. Everything I once believed is a lie and I bought it...hook, line and sinker.

Another note. On Sunday evenings, we have "small groups". Kind of like an informal Bible study. The last one we attended, which was fall of last year was when I first discovered this site. I had just finished reading Ray's commentary on the myth of free will. It turns out that the lesson that evening talked exclusively about free will. I tried to put into words what I could gather from Ray's teachings. But, I ended up making a few people upset. They pulled out all of the typical rhetoric that Ray uses as examples in his lessons.

Well, my wife convinced me to go to our small group this last Sunday. I told her that she needed to understand that I have my own beliefs about certain things and that they don't line up with what most church doctrine's teach. I told her that if anything came up that I didn't believe in, then I would probably be very silent.

Wouldn't you know. We get there and the lesson is on FREE WILL. I couldn't believe it. It was like God was saying, "Ha! Got you good." and was causing the circumstances so that I WOULD have to speak up. Well, I did a much better job of presenting what Ray taught. There were a few heads that shook when I stated emphatically that I believe that there is no such thing as Free Will or Free Moral Agency or the like. It was a very lively conversation and I was able to use scriptures to start making my points. It was at that point that some people actually grew silent and opened up their Bible to make sure I was saying what the Bible said. I was.



I still need to read over all of this about a gazillion more times and thoroughly commit it to memory. I want to be able to instantly give an answer for any question or argument that could come up about free will. But, I want to thank Ray for doing SOOOOOOOOOO much of the ground work for simpletons like myself. I do owe Ray a huge debt of gratitude.

dogcombat:

--- Quote ---It was at that point that some people actually grew silent and opened up their Bible to make sure I was saying what the Bible said. I was.

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Once people start to actually READ their bibles, they would see a ton of honey flavored heresy being shoved down their throats by Christiandom's traditions.

Ches

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