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Jackie Lee:
--- Quote from: LoriMarie on March 15, 2007, 10:15:56 AM ---Thanks for those awesome scriptures Joe. This IS the cry of my heart day after day. It seems like torment some days because I just want to be there and it seems to just be taking so long. I know God has the perfect time table for each one of us it is just hard to wait sometimes. The difference is when I read this Psalm before I knew the truths God has revealed to me I would get so discouraged thinking...well am I really a Christian...am I really saved (I used to ask this all the time). Now however I read that Psalm and it gives me hope that God has set my heart to seek Him and His ways and I KNOW that I will be part of the ALL in ALL one day. Praise God!
Lori :)
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Hi LoriMarie I just wanted to say I understand, I have felt the same.
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: LittleBear on March 15, 2007, 10:30:28 PM ---
I'm wondering about something.
Psalm 119:18 Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wonderous things out of thy law.
What law is the writer talking about? Is it the 613 laws of the old testament? What wonderous things would he see in the OT law?
The law of the OT defines sin.
2 Cor. 3:7 says the law is the ministry of death, but was glorious. I think I know what this means in a way, because the law was given by God and served a function in showing the people of Israel the ways of God. In that way it was glorious.
Also, Hebrews 10:1 says that the law was a shadow of good things to come and not the very image of the things. So, would the writer of Psalms 119:18 see this? Would he see this law as a shadow and yearn for more, knowing that there was more? How would he know this?
Thank you,
Ursula
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Hi Ursula,
You pretty much answered your own question, law, commandments, word, etc. can almost be used interchangably and in this instance we can read "precept" in place of law as that might better describe what the writer was attempting to communicate.
Also, in some uses (according to Strong's) "moral imperitives" would be an apt definition. The first 5 books of scripture (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy) including the 10 Commandments would be the proper way of understanding this verse.
Thank you for your thoughtful response.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: LittleBear on March 15, 2007, 10:30:28 PM ---
Also, Hebrews 10:1 says that the law was a shadow of good things to come and not the very image of the things. So, would the writer of Psalms 119:18 see this? Would he see this law as a shadow and yearn for more, knowing that there was more? How would he know this?
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Hello again Ursula,
As to your second question it was the Spirit of Christ that revealed these spiritual truths to the Prophets (for our edification) check out the following, especially verses 10 & 11.
1 Peter 1
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
7That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
8Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
9Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
10Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
12Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
13Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
LittleBear:
My goodness, Joe, I don't think I ever saw that scripture, 1 Peter 1:2, or if I did it didn't resonate with me at the time.
How amazing that the spirit of Christ would be in the prophets, which thinking about it now, of course it would be.
I also didn't realize that the "law" could be used interchangably with the 'word".
Thank you very much for your response.
Ursula.
skydreamers:
Hi Joe,
Thanks for this great thread! Last summer, a friend and I attempted to memorize this Psalm! I think she got a lot further than I did since she is a whiz at memorizing scripture. I may not have it memorized it but I did write the whole thing out on cue cards and to this day I will pull them out and read them on occasion when walking my dogs.
I have to say I can totally relate to what LoriMarie said:
--- Quote ---This IS the cry of my heart day after day. It seems like torment some days because I just want to be there and it seems to just be taking so long. I know God has the perfect time table for each one of us it is just hard to wait sometimes. The difference is when I read this Psalm before I knew the truths God has revealed to me I would get so discouraged thinking...well am I really a Christian...am I really saved (I used to ask this all the time). Now however I read that Psalm and it gives me hope that God has set my heart to seek Him and His ways and I KNOW that I will be part of the ALL in ALL one day. Praise God!
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Psalms 119:81-83 NLT
81 I faint with longing for your salvation;
but I have put my hope in your word.
82 My eyes are straining to see your promises come true.
When will you comfort me?
83 I am shriveled like a wineskin in the smoke, exhausted with waiting.
But I cling to your principles and obey them.
Well, at least I try to obey his principles. This Psalm used to intimidate me because the writer keeps repeating how he obeys and keeps all the commandments, decrees, laws etc. and refuses to do evil, and I know I am FAR from being able to claim this. But at least now I have peace knowing everything is in God's hands.
Joe, what you said here:
--- Quote ---He is still in the process of creating His chosen for a mighty ministry the world has not even imagined, yes they are inwardly groaning for this manifestation but do not know what they are in need of or certainly how it will come about. This experience in the flesh I am quite sure will seem like a blink of an eye when He gives His children the full payment of His promise. All the experiences, trials, tribulations and suffering will be put into perspective when His Glory is shared with His elect, it will appear small, almost insignificant in comparison.
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I was just speaking to a friend yesterday about this very idea. Some days when I am weary from the struggle I try to put it all in perspective remembering this:
James 4:14 ESV
14 What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes.
This life seems so dramatic and intense but I know one day it will seem like a drop in the bucket compared to the promises that await us.
Peace,
Diana
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