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A Question about freewill
GODSown1:
Hi all,
I was just wondering whats the differance between "Freewill" & "Choice", So I need to get this clear!, whatever we do!, whatevers happened is GODS will for each of us??. So then haha!, If that is so, So then that means whatever, whoever is doing in their lives is GODS Will for them? is this meaning the choices We make are really Not our own anyway But! GODS!?. So again in saying all that brings me to the conclusion if whatever Ive just said is Right!, then all the so called TeleEvangist!, the corrupt Pastors, Preachers is GODS will for them??? Please HELP!! me understand this PLEASE!!
muchLOVE!! Pera
Jackie Lee:
Hi Pera I have wondered the same.
I do understand a bit that freewill is not possible because there is a cause behind every choice we make.
For instance I could want to live in Australia but my husband would want to live in the states so because there is a cause behind this I may not be able to live in Australia.
We have no freewill when we are borned or when we will die and aparently none inbetween... :D
I hope I am on the righ track and not misleading anyone.
I am still learning and freewill is a bit of a stumbling block for me.
I just keep going over his papers on freewill and I understand more each time.
Someone *please* correct me if I am wrong.
Jackie Lee:
I posted this today on another board concerning freewill...
I have considered once again freewill.
There can be no freewill unless there is no cause.
As much as I would like to believe I have freewill it is just an illusion.
Job had no freewill.
Pharoh had no freewill.
Peter had no freewill when he denied Jesus 3 times.
Judas had no freewill when he betrayed Jesus.
There are many other examples also that is throughout the scriptures.
I was called a fatalist and should consider Islam with my fatalist view.
GODSown1:
Hi Jackie Lee,
wow! I hope ur right! lol! coz U are making sum more sense to me lol!!
muchLOVE!! Pera
skydreamers:
Hi Pera,
As I understand it, we can make choices, and in fact make hundreds of choices in any given day. This in itself does not mean these choices are "free". Our God is Sovereign and is literally in control of EVERYTHING. He designed us and built us in such a way that we are spiritually weak...we are pulled constantly by our own lusts inherent in our carnal flesh. This is in itself shows that carnal man is not free. Everything in this whole universe is governed by the laws of cause and effect. Just because we are not AWARE of what is causing our choices doesn't mean there isn't a cause. (Behind every cause is God). And as long as there is a cause than our will is simply not "free".
The sections in Ray's writings are quite lengthy but they are so worth going through, even a few times. Ray will take you through every twist and turn and back up everything with scripture. It becomes clearer and clearer for me the more I study it.
There is also a great audio on free will here:
http://bible-truths.com/audio/freewill1.mp3
http://bible-truths.com/audio/freewill2.mp3
This was probably the hardest truth for me to embrace but with much study, reflection, meditation on the scriptures and mega prayer I finally started to get it! So be patient if it's not all clear at first. It's worth studying out however, because understanding that we have no free will is actually quite "freeing".... ;)
Peace,
Diana
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