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unbelievable...a HELL PLAY by our local homeschoolers!

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snorky:
Susan:

I agree, don't stop homeschooling...but by you rother posts it seems it was directed at you if not your son. If they are snobbish or whatever to him, then maybe distancing yourselves from this group would be better. Are there other homeschool groups in your area? Or you can just participate in one or two events. Our HS group covers a very large area and extends about 100 mile radius in the Big Bend area. there are 30 or so families of all denominations, non-denominations, Catholics, charismatics, fundamentalists, you name it, as well as non-church goers. Since most of the meetings are held in a town 50 miles away (Alpine, where most of the families are) we don't do much with them. We ourselves do the Geography Bee and the Project Fair every year and that's about it. The families in the Ft. Davis area are more likely to be less "churchy" and more Biblically truthful based, but of course the "hell" issue is still a stumbling block for them. I don't know about the ones in Alpine but the folks in Ft. Davis have never really made too much of a big deal about "hell." Your situation, having a child that is pretty much shunned, shouldn't discourage you too much. In the mountains here my son and daughter pretty much had just themselves to hang with. Now that he's in college my girl misses him but she does okay and we do things with her. I hope this helps.--Deb

hebrewroots98:
Deb,
I would never think of doing anything but home schooling (unless the Lord of cousre showed me otherwise.)  Unfortunately this group says from their mouths that they reiceive ALL BELIEVERS IN CHRIST; but their hearts and actions show shunning and arrogance and self righteiousness and cliques. They will even smile and hug you in public and work with me and son in public, and I know for a fact that they have talked negatively about me to the others in the clique.  They claim to accept all denominations (and they DO accept all denominations that you have spoken of, but, just not a Messianic believer (which I used to be), or a 'NO HELL BELIVER' ;),) but the truth is...THEY CAN'T HANDLE SPIRITUAL TRUTHS !!  They all think that they are better than I just b/c they have a little formal education and money, and as I said before...I am not impressed with them and their education b/c their hearts are dark and unloving and hypocritical.  I know their game, abut they don't know that.  The WOMEN/MOPTHERS ar the ones whom have always tried to give Daniel a hard time; (their kids just don't notice a difference unless the parents told them to stay away from him. )  I JUST ATTRIBUTE IT TO THE FACT THAT ME AND DANIEL'S FIGHTS ARE NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, BUT AGAINST THE SPIRITS IN THESE PEOPLE THAT DONT LIKE THE SPIRIT THAT IS IN US; thus I can't get away from this attitude in this world, it is everywhere!  I willjust have toi live with it.

Really, Deb, I doubt that  it would be any different to go to a different homeschool group here in the area or to a public school b/c the spiritual environment is exactly the same; just different classrooms.  The WORLD is THE WORLD (CHRISTIANS ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM THE UNBELEIVING WORLD IN MY VIEWPOINT....B/C THEY ARE AGAINST THE TRUTH.  SO, I AM 'IN' THE WORLD BUT NOT 'OF' THE WORLD ...So, I will stay where I am since I don't want my son in public schools, and I will just go for only the essential educational opportunities with the group and forget expecting to get close to them ...I was close before they knew my spiritual beliefs and then those relationships went down the drain.  When they saw me change my religion, they began to think that I am spiritually UNSTABLE...(if they only knew of the rock solid foundation that I have received from above, they would be amazed!) 

Yes, their animocity that is being directed to me and Daniel are b/c several of the women know that we no longer believe in hell since I told them so one on one; so they have collaborated this story between themselves about me and they just pretend to like me in public and then ignore me all other times.  I even told the director of this group of how there are cliques and she didn't seem bothered by it enough to do anything about it.  (Daniel was not invited to a Spanish class that most all of the other kids were in ...when I asked why I wasn't invited, I was told that she 'thought' that I couldn;t afford the class materials (when I could have), then we were not asked to do the language arts class (and no money was involved here... They were very secretive and manipulative with this co-op class where each parent assists.) 

(ok, thank you for letting me vent...)

Talk with ya later,   

Bev:
I'm not certain whether this is pertinent to the conversation but Jesus said in Matthew 5:13 - Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. I'm not saying I'm right, but I'm not certain that we should be striving always to be extreme separatist. Paul the apostle said in 1 Corinthians 9:22 - To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. We've got brethren out here that don't even know that they're brethren that need to be called out. Sometimes God plants us somewhere simply to plant seeds for the one or two. God knows who His are. Don't blow your cover. 

Bev:
It's amazing to see that there are those out there suffering the same alienation and shunning as me and my family. Me, my girls, and husband are shunned from our families and everybody else. It get's lonely at times. It's amazing to hear some of you alls testimony's here. We are indeed in the world but not of the world. Even when I use to try to fit in, I didn't fit in. I was never accepted by peers, acquaintance, and/or family except when someone needed something. Everyone knows I've always had a giving heart. I use to even would go without to help some of them, until I found out that some of them were talking about what a fool I am. It hurt. I never really knew that their are some literal mean and evil folks in the world. I really didn't have to look to much in the world, they were right in my family. I know Jesus said in Matthew 5:44 - But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you. Well, I really need THE HOLY SPIRIT after how I've been treated of the last decade and a half through loving folks. It wasn't something I had to work at, it was just there. I hope it hasn't waxed cold. I'm sorry. Now, I'm venting. I just never knew that there were such mean and cruel folks in the world, and a lot of them in organized religion.

hebrewroots98:
Bev, I agree with you and I think your post is very pertinent!  I do not want  to be an extreme separatist either!  Yes, definatley we are callled out to be the light to them that purposefully use us...and I have always struggled in this area.  My spirit wants to be that light, but my body says...no way, i am not putting myself out there to be trampled on!  I want to love all people and especially my enemies...God is using this very situation in my  life to do exactly that with these HSers.  You are right, there are possiblly a few that will listen and bleieve the truth,sbut, how will they listen unless someone is sent?  How beautiful the feet of those that bring good tidings!  I have my work cut out for me now ;)

I, too can relate to family being the first ones to use and abuse you.  It does hurt; but I would never give up on them, and they are fianlly seeing Christ through me!  Thanks  Bev, I needed to hear this :D

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