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The "Testimony" that God Gave Of His Son!
Kat:
Hi Arcturus,
I had to think about this spiritual match for awhile, but I think I get it now :)
The angels with the 7 vials that caused such misery through chapter 16 of Revlation, yet it says in Rev. 19:10 " I am your fellow servant," So at the same time it was doing the will of the Father in both causing misery and serving the elect.
--- Quote ---2 Cor 2 : 15,16 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: 16. To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life.
--- End quote ---
This scripture was hard for me to get it at first. But I'm thinking it is saying that at the same time that we are a sweet savour to God as to being brought to the life given us in Christ now, then to the life immortal at the resurrection, thus life unto life. And at the same time the rest of humanity are dead in their sins and will face the second death, thus death unto death.
So if that is what that scripture means than I do see the match. As you say, it is all ONE, and we can see that all through the scripture if we understand it.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
Redbird:
To add to your wonderful conversation;
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mark 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Luke 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36: Neither can they die any more, for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Love, Lisa
Kat:
Hi Lisa,
As I was thinking of the scripture that you brought up about the angels never marrying.
This makes you wonder why, that angels have no need for marriage? Wouldn't it be because they do not have genders, so they do not reproduce and neither so neither would they have sex.
Which will be the case of humans when they are resurrected, I believe that is the point being made in these scripture.
The last scripture you gave was interesting;
Luke 20:36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
So this verse states, those in the resurrection will be immortal, because they will not die any more, and they are "equal to the angels."
That is an interesting phrase "equal to angel," and it is not used any where else in scripture. Does that mean just in the aspect of immortality?
Another mystery :-\
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
Redbird:
Hi Kat,
As far as humans in the resurrection not marrying, I had thought maybe because the Body of Christ is considered
to be Jesus's bride, anything else, might be considered a type of adultery so to speak. Symbolic of course. You all had mentioned that angels are our assistants, and would not the elect also assist in the salvation of all. Hence,
"as the angels".
What do you think?
Peace to you dear sister,
Lisa
Kat:
Hi Redbird,
--- Quote --- You all had mentioned that angels are our assistants, and would not the elect also assist in the salvation of all.
--- End quote ---
The elect will jugde the world with Christ.
http://bible-truths.com/lake12.html -----------------------------
We read that all judgment has been given unto the Son, Jesus Christ. But Jesus is not the only Judge in that day. Here is where the manifested Sons and Daughters of God come into their most important role in the salvation of all mankind, all creation, and the entirety of the creation in both the heavens and the earth:
THE SAINTS SHALL JUDGE THE WORLD
The called and chosen were born to be Judges:
"Or are you not aware that the saints [the manifested Sons and Daughters of God] shall JUDGE THE WORLD? And if the world shall be judged by YOU, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?" (I Cor. 6:2).
"And I saw thrones and they sat upon them, and JUDGMENT was given unto them [the saints, the manifested Sons of God]…" (Rev. 20:4).
Every man will be judged and the Saints will do the judging:
"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it: and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were JUDGED EVERY MAN according to their works" (Rev. 20:13).
JUDGES, LORDS, PRIESTS AND KINGS
The called and chosen were born to be Judges, Lords, Priests and Kings:
"If we suffer, we shall also REIGN with Him…" (II Tim. 2:12).
"And has made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall REIGN on the earth" (Rev. 5:10).
We are the church of the Living God, and what is the church in relation to Christ?
"And has put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be the Head over all things to the church, Which IS HIS BODY, the fullness of Him that fills all in all" (Eph. 1:22-23).
"For we are members of HIS BODY, OF his flesh, AND OF his bones… This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and THE CHURCH [the heavenly, not the carnal church]" (Eph. 5:30 & 32).
Whatever Christ does, WE DO ALSO, because we ARE HIS BODY! Yes, WE, the manifest Sons and Daughters of God, will JUDGE THE WORLD!
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Since the elect will judge the world as the Lake of Fire, maybe the angels will assist in some way ???
Mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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