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Except it was given you from above(?)
Kat:
Hi Brett,
I know what you mean;
--- Quote --- I'm just too hungry to understand the deep things .
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Lisa, gave some good scripture.
John 3:31 He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all.
I thought this phrase "from above" in this verse, could be looked into further.
"from above" G509
anōthen
Thayer Definition:
1) from above, from a higher place
1a) of things which come from heaven or God
2) from the first, from the beginning, from the very first
3) anew, over again
I think that helps us see what this means. And these scripture also can help us see this.
Eph 4:9 (Now this, "He ascended"--what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth?
v. 10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)
"far above" G5231
huperanō
Strong definition
From G5228 and G507; above upward, that is, greatly higher (in place or rank): - far above, over.
So this all seems to say that using the word 'above' means a higher place of authority, rank and glory, and everything else is 'under' God.
So He would always be considered 'above' figuratively and it is also spoken that way literally as well.
Rom 13:1 "Let every soul be subject to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except under God. Now those which are, have been set under God," (CLV)
Hope this helps :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
YellowStone:
Kat, that was a great answer. :)
Brett, just to elaborate on this a little further,
When we are told:
John 3:31 He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all.
He is above ALL that we know. This of course does not mean that he is higher as in height than all, because ALL is in him and he encompasses all. :)
1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.
Eph 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all
God by nature surrounds everything, so when we are told that He is "above" all things, it obviously means something different than we can fully comprehend.
Kathy, made a good point about being higher in authority, but it could also mean a "higher" dimension, a spiritual realm perhaps. This would lend itself very well with the Scripture you quoted.
Eph. 6:12
"...powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places."
A great question and I hope you are finding answers that help. :)
Your brother in Christ,
Darren
Kat:
Hi Darren,
--- Quote ---He is above ALL that we know. This of course does not mean that he is higher than all, because ALL is in him.
1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.
Eph 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all
God by nature surrounds everything, so when we are told that He is "above" all things, it obviously means something different than we can fully comprehend.
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I can't understand what you have said here "This of course does not mean that he is higher than all... it obviously means something different than we can fully comprehend" ???
Psa 97:9 For You, Jehovah, are high above all the earth; You are lifted on high far above all gods.
Psa 113:4 Jehovah is high above all nations, and His glory above the heavens.
Neh 9:5 ... Stand up and bless Jehovah your God forever and ever. And blessed be Your glorious name, which is exalted above allblessing and praise.
John 3:31 He who comes from above is above allis above all; he who is from the earth is earthly and speaks from the earth. He who comes from Heaven is above all,
Eph 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, even as you are called in one hope of your calling,
v. 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
v. 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in you all.
I do not have a problem comprehending that God is 'above all.' I just except it as according to the scripture, by faith :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
PKnowler:
Kat,
I think I understand what Darren is saying here.
Darren Quoted in Blue:
He is above ALL that we know.
Darren acknowledges that God is above all in authority.
This of course does not mean that he is higher as in height than all, because ALL is in him and he encompasses all
What Darren is saying is that God is everywhere! He is omnipresent.
God by nature surrounds everything, so when we are told that He is "above" all things, it obviously means something different than we can fully comprehend.
I think what Darren is saying is that we can't fully comprehend that God is everywhere and surrounds everything!
Those are my thoughts on what Darren wrote. And I have to agree! I can't comprehend God's omnipresence! It blows my mind to think about it.
Blessings! :)
~Paula
Kat:
Hi Paula,
Well certainly I can't understand how God is omnipresent.
But for me it's more of realizing He is not like us, but Spirit.
I guess I am not trying to look at this in a literal way, as His spirit being at the same level or height with us, because His spirit is in us.
I want to think of God as above all things, in authority, and is superior in every way, even if His spirit is in us.
It's not something I try to comprehend, but just except it.
I guess we are looking at it kind of differently :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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