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Mockery of the cross
Firefly:
Hi everybody...
I had an interesting day at work today. My boss who is a christian asked me what my husband and I do or believe about easter now. I said that we think it was originally a pagan holiday that christians have changed to represent Jesus's reserection. She said well you don't believe that Jesus died on the cross and rose on the third day. I said..that's not true...I never said that. (I have more words put in my mouth) Then she said that Jesus told the one thief that he would be in paradise with Him so that proved that the other one would not be in heaven. I said just because it is not recorded what he said to the other thief it does not prove or disprove anything. Then we went back and forth about how He did die for everyone but you have to make the choice...blah, blah, blah...I started to shake and my heart was pounding. She said I was not a christian like her and another coworker and I should not even call myself a christian. Then she accused me of being a universalist and I said I was not one...and then she said that I think you can do whatever you want and it doesn't matter...Once again I never said that either. Then she said I make a mockery of the cross (I guess because I believe God will eventually save everyone) and I said she made a mockery of it by saying that Jesus can't save everyone. Then she asked me what I thought would happen to the devil..I said I am not even going there..she said something like see you have loose ends you can't explain (I was really thinking I can't tell her I believe God will purge and refine the devil too (although I do not have scripture for this...do any of you know of two)...I kept thinking you can't handle the truth...that great line from whatever movie)...then she said I said that I did not believe in the devil...once again I never said that...I then remembered Susan's good advice (a little too late) and I said, I don't want to talk with you about this any more. I then got called away...(thank you God) and when I came back I was still kind of shaking...she came over and hugged me and said something (I don't remember what) and I said I love you...
she also accused me of having evil spirits/demons in me (not in so many words)....being in a cult...having no fellowship etc.
I tried to explain to her that I understood what she was thinking (she said I did not understand)
From her point of view she thinks I am deceived and she is really worried that I am wrong and or going to hell and that God is going to be furious with me. I actually feel bad that she is so upset for me about this. But I tried to explain to her that if she felt God specifically told or showed her something could she go against it. Then she told me it wasn't about feelings...I just can't win. I know she can not see anything unless God shows her the truth...but it just makes work extra fun...NOT....like it isn't stressful enough....(I am a nurse).
I just don't like upsetting people...I know I can't deny these truths God has shown me but I just needed to vent a little and I know you all probably have been through similar situations. Thanks for listening/reading. Lori :)
PS..when I get into these heated conversations where I feel attacked I can't even remember my name!
Kat:
Hi Lori,
Rough day :P
Take it as a good sign ;)
2Ti 3:12 Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,
Mat 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Here are the scripture that I think will show Christ will save Satan.
Col 1:20 And through Him having made peace through the blood of His cross, it pleased the Father to reconcile all things to Himself through Him, whether the things on earth or the things in Heaven.
Eph 1:9 having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself,
Eph 1:10 that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth--in Him.
And another thing Satan will be cast into the Lake of Fire, that is judgment.
Rev 20:10 And the Devil who deceived them was cast into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet were . And he will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Hope this help :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello LoriMarie
thank you for sharing that! It really gives insight as to what the blind "see".
It was Jack Nicholson who said "YOU CAN;t HANDLE THE TRUTH!" Brilliant hey! :D
Anyway, I just wanted to thank you and I have no point to make but to say THANKYOU and let us remember they can not handle the truth not in a sarcastic or prideful boastful way but in a cautionary way that says....handle with care....explosive material...highly volatile!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Redbird:
Dear LoriMarie,
Like Kat says, that is a good sign, because the closer you get to God, the more you will be tested. Stand strong in the Lord my dear sister, and remember..... sometimes silence is golden. :)
Thes 3:11-13 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread. But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
Love in Christ, Lisa
Rene:
Hi Lori,
My heart goes out to you. I know it can be a nerve-racking experience trying to defend the truth to someone who is blind, especially when that person is pitying you and trying to "save" your soul from damnation. I try to avoid such conversations as often as possible, but then I feel like a coward when I refuse to allow the debate to begin. I am encouraged by your strength to stand up for the truth. Thanks for sharing.
Peace and HIs grace to you,
Rene'
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