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Deborah-Leigh:

I found a match.

Luke 3 : 17 His winnowing shovel is in His hand to thoroughly clear and cleanse His threshing floor and to gather the wheat and store it in His granary, but the chaff He will burn with fire that  cannot be extinguished.

The fire that "cannot be extinguished" I do not have a problem with. This is Gods consuming fire. God does not change so why should His fire get cold or die out?

It is the WINNOWING SHOVEL! Now that is judgment!

Here is the match.

Matt 14 : 24 But the boat was by this time out on the sea, many furlongs distant from the land, beaten and TOSSED by the waves, for the wind was against them.

How is that for the winnowing shovel and the wind against them! I know just what they may have experienced as Christ has started to share with me the pain He felt through persecution. It is therein that I can know that He is with me,  because of bad times...the winnowing fork of God or the waves.....know what I mean?

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

YellowStone:
Arcturus, you are truly on to something here, for I know exactly what you mean! :)

Matt 14:24 But the boat was by this time out on the sea, many furlongs distant from the land, beaten and TOSSED by the waves, for the wind was against them.

This world is seemingly full of uncertainity and calamity abounds; however, we have faith. :)

Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 

Unlike some, who are tossed and battered because their faith is forgotten and they are tossed to and fro until they sink. :(

1Ti 1:19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:

They beg and plead but God hears them not, for they ask not in faith.

Jam 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.  

But we as children of God through our faith in Christ Jesus, stand firm. :)

Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.  

And the trials of this world begin to fade to nothing, for by faith our focus is not on this world, for we "rejoice in hope of the glory of God." and the promise of his Kingdom.

Rom 8:31 ¶ What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?

Rom 8:35  Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? REALLY!!   :D

Your faith inspires me, my dear sister. :)

Your brother in Christ,
Darren

hebrewroots98:
Alright Arcturus!  You nailed it friend; great detective work (Mrs. Sherlock! ;D)  Without that religious persecution and bad times  and trials we wouldn't be quite sure if our faith was working.... I know exactly what you mean! 

Yes Darren, I'm glad to know that those trials will help us to stand more firm with time.

skydreamers:
The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit."  Joh 3:8

but the boat by this time was a long way from the land, beaten by the waves, for the wind was against them.  Mat 14:24

As they went away, Jesus began to speak to the crowds concerning John: "What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind?  Mat 11:7

But when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, "Lord, save me."  Mat 14:30

In the carnal state the Spirit (the wind) seems to be against us, though really it is God disciplining us by struggle and challenge...we are "shaken" and brought into humility.  Without God's help spiritual matters are frustrating to try and understand, and living without God's spirit as our only true Guide and Comfort, is really like being tossed from one turbulent experience to another.  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.  One day however, when God is ALL in ALL, and we are truly ONE, in unity with God's mind and purpose, there will be a calm for all of us (the sea):

And he awoke and rebuked the wind and said to the sea, "Peace! Be still!" And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.  Mar 4:39

Peace,
Diana






Deborah-Leigh:
Thank you Darren.

The scriptures that arose to your mind that you shared, fit perfectly.

As for MY FAITH....well...it is really like this. When I wrote this post I was going through the most painful experience.

Thank you Susan for your kind and friendly fellowship. I know you too have been through a lot!

Diana, it will certainly be wonderous when finally we hear Our Lord say to all our trials that test our faith as gold....Peace be still! ;D

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

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