Hi Hi rocky and Diana,
Well I'm just not very good at explaining these things. Diana you really have it figured out pretty good. I do not think Ray has directly wrote on this subject anywhere.
I won't to take another shot at this scripture, rocky
1Co 15:21 For since death is through man, the resurrection of the dead also is through a Man.
v. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all will be made alive.
All of humanity have and will die a physical death, as Adam did. This is the first death that all face, it is a physical death. All these people will be resurrected from this physical death, and this encludes all the people that ever lived up until Christ's return. Even all those prophets of old and David and John the Baptist, all died a physical death, and all these must yet die a second death to the carnal mind, this is a spiritual death.
Now since Christ was raised and become the Firstfurit, He gives His Holy Spirit to those that are chosen. Now these few die spiritually, but most have to still die physically, because Christ has not come yet. God has given this physical body just so many years, then it must die. All those who were faithful, still had to die a physical death, because their body died, one way or another, before Christ returned.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
I believe this scripture is speaking of that spiritual death that all, no exception, must go through to have spiritual life in Christ. And we are all judged by the spiritual fire, when we are symbolicly buried with Christ, and must learn to live anew in the spirit, few now, most later.
Rom 6:3 Do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death?
v. 4 Therefore we were buried with Him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father; even so we also should walk in newness of life.
But just a few are going through this now, the vast majority will go through this spiritual death after they have physically died and are physically resurrected.
Now those living with the Holy Spirit in them at Christ's return, do not die physically, why? They lived into the age when Christ returns and rules, and there will be no more physical death.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of Heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God.
v.4 And God will wipe away all tears from their eyes.
And there will be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying out, nor will there be any more pain; for the first things passed away.
I believe this is physical death He is talking about, and so those very few chose and faithful who are physically alive at His return, can not physically die.
When Christ returns it will be a new heaven and new earth, there will be no more physical death. So all who die there after, it will be a spiritual death.
Hi jER,
In Rev. 21, this is when Christ is ruling and His judgment has come. All have been resurrected to physical life and now must go throught purging by God's spiritual fire, which is the second death. This is those in verse 8, they are being purged by Christ and the saints that are reigning with Him, they are the Lake of fire.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and the unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, will have their part in the Lake burning with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
Once these have been purified and have reach spiritual maturity, then their name will be written in the Book of Life They will be brought into the kingdom, it does not require another death at this point, but just to be changed. This we can see happening at the end of Rev. 21.
Rev 21:24 And the nations of those who are saved will walk in the light of it; and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.
v. 25 And its gates may not be shut at all by day, for there shall be no night there.
v. 26 And they shall bring the glory and honor of the nations into it.
v. 27 And there shall in no way enter into it anything that defiles, or any making an abomination or a lie; but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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