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The Fire Jesus Spake In Mathew ?
SeeksAllTruth:
Jesus says in Mathew 25 v. 41 "Then He will also say to those on His left, Depart from Me accursed ones,into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels. I have been reading Ray's writtings about the fire. Seeing that the fire is a spiritual cleansing that God will perform on those who don't or are not going through it now voluntarily. I was doing quite well with this spiritually but tonight I run across this in Mathew Chapter 25. This appears to be a fire for the devil, the devils angels and it states 'eternal'. I'm confused, maybe. Although spiritually I see the fire as eternal meaning, the fire is an eternal fire for purifying? The context here in Mathew 25 then would also mean that the devil and his angels will be purified along with those who are not blessed of the Father. ? Thoughts anyone?
In Christ Jesus,
Bruce
skydreamers:
Hi Bruce,
I know how it feels when you think you are sure of some truth spiritually and then you come across a scripture that seems to throw a wrench in things. I have had to learn to be patient and wait on the Lord to show me how these things fit. That's been hard for me because I always want to know things, like, yesterday!
Firstly, if you have not yet done a study on the Greek word "aion" (and the Hebrew word "olam") which is what has been translated in most bibles as eternal, everlasting, forever etc etc etc then you would find this beneficial. Here is a paper by Ray that addresses this:
http://bible-truths.com/aeonion.htm
It does seem to me that Satan and his angels will also be cleansed and come to be in unity with God. You can see that, for example, in these scriptures:
Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. (Satan and his angels) For he must reign until he has put all his enemies (Satan and his angels) under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For "God has put all things in subjection under his feet." But when it says, "all things are put in subjection," it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.
1Co 15:24-28
who shall change our body of humiliation so that it may be fashioned like His glorious body, according to the working of His power, even to subdue all things to Himself.
Php 3:21
God is a consuming fire; thus He IS the Lake of Fire, but also so are the Elect.
He makes His angels (messengers) spirits, His ministers a flaming fire.
Psa 104:4
Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be. But we know that when He shall be revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.
1Jn 3:2
We will be like God in that we will also be a consuming fire.
The sinners in Zion are afraid; terror has surprised profane ones. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? Who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? He who walks righteously and speaks uprightly (the Elect); he who despises the gain of oppressions, who shakes his hands free from holding bribes, who stops his ear from hearing of blood, and shuts his eyes from seeing evil;
Isa 33:14-15
It's a "lake" of fire, or as Ray has pointed out, more accurately means "pond", because it consists of the FEW chosen. The elect judge the world and the devil and his angels.....
Do you not know that we shall judge angels, not to mention the things of this life?
1Co 6:3
And judgments inevitably means that righteousness WILL be learned:
for when Your judgments are in the earth, the people of the world learn righteousness.
Isa 26:9
Thus, the devil and his angels will be judged in the Lake of Fire, which IS the Elect, Christ and God, and they will learn righteousness.
It is a most amazing thing to contemplate that this "eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels", is actually the Elect who are presently being prepared to be Priests and Rulers with Christ. God is bringing them to the point where they will be more than capable of judging the nations as well as the devil and his angels.
Hope this helps you in your studies.
Peace,
Diana
SeeksAllTruth:
Thank you Diana. Two thing's I will do this week, Lord willing...First, print your reply to have and ponder on and also a word study of what you have reccommended. I'm also the type of personality that likes thing's 'microwaved'. By that now said, I'll have to ask God to teach me the answers to these questions as he wills and I'll have to crucify my personality of eagerness and wait on HIM...Amen? Thank you sister :)
May His Grace Rest Upon You!
Bruce
DWIGHT:
Diana,
That was absolutely wonderful. Now imagine all of what you just said, is happening right now in us, this very moment. For the kingdom of heaven is within you. Jesus, is, was and will be. All that happened in the past is Christ, all that is happening now is Christ, and all that will happen in the future is Christ.
The judging of Satan and his angels is now...in us. What happend to Adam and Eve is happening in us now. What will happen in the millenium is happening now. Of course, all this is spiritual because God is spirit, but He has no begining and no end. If we live in Christ, then we too are: is, was and will be, because as He is, so are we in this world. Whatever is, was and will happen to Christ is, was and will happen to us.
John 17:22
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Bruce, pray also for ears to hear and eyes to see.
In Him,
Dwight
skydreamers:
--- Quote ---I'll have to ask God to teach me the answers to these questions as he wills and I'll have to crucify my personality of eagerness and wait on HIM...Amen?
--- End quote ---
Amen brother!! Me too...I love the way you put that....crucify my personality of eagerness.....I hear you brother, I hear you!
Peace to you,
Diana
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