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What areas do you agree, or agree to disagree with Ray's teachings ?

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mari_et_pere:
Someone stated in this thread:


--- Quote ---I will keep this short as I do not believe this thread will be around long.  There is very little tolerance for disagreement on Ray on this forum.  This is not what this forum is for.  In the past it has been said that there is no one that Ray agrees with 100% and those area of disagreement do not get aired out in the public.  Do you not think there is a proper way to handle disagreements?
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I have a MAJOR problem with this! The "Christian" school I attended for 12 years had that same type of argument! If not for debate, then what? Complacency? Does questioning things politely and orderly not pave way to progress or knowledge? Do you not think that that IS a proper way to handle "disagreements"? If anyone here believes that Ray is the first person to ever come to the truths that he writes about, then they are sadly mistaken! He's obviously a great man of God, and he's obviously led by God for God and is 100% sincere, or at least seems to me to be. HOWEVER I emphatically WILL NOT be told that "there is little tolerance for what you have to say" when what I say is honest question or comment.
If to question one of "Ray's teachings" is intolerable here, then I don't even know what to think of this forum anymore! Fact: questioning "Ray's teachings" is not questioning Ray, it's questioning the teaching. Shame on anyone who won't allow one to ask why or how a certain teaching came about. Do you think that Ray never questioned anything? Are we to not discern or "test as the Bereans" as the original poster stated?
It's funny; when I saw this thread title I thought "I'm gonna check out what they're saying and warn them that while we believe what Ray says, that doesn't mean we should be accidentally putting our faith in RAY." But the very first post did that for me. My apologies to anyone who thinks I am seeming to react in anger; I truly don't want to come off that way, but it really irks me when myself or somebody else is told that "you can't say that here" when it's an honest, politely stated question or comment.
Imagine for a moment if you will: Jesus is teaching a multitude, and a man comes to Him with an honest, potentially life-changing question, and one of Jesus' disciples steps in and says, "There is little tolerance for disagreement with Jesus and his words here! You can't ask things like that in public! That is a private matter!"

If that were the case, WHERE WOULD YOU BE RIGHT NOW?

Matt

Robin:
Anyone is free to email Ray and express their disagreement with his teaching. Most emails are posted on the public forum. We can't speak for him.

The rules are here if you have questions.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3.0.html

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3614.0.html

Chris R:
Hello folks,

Before I lock the thread, I'm going to explain for the 100th time what it is that we are trying to accomplish here.

"We" the Bible truth moderators, Including Dennis, In no way wish to "silence" you, or what you believe. It is not our intention to persuade one single person to beleive what is written on this site, nor can we!

It is our intention to create a place were like minded believers can come and discuss the writings of L. Ray smith.  You can disagree with Ray all you want!
We just ask that you go/write to him directly, IT IS NOT FAIR THAT RAY IS CHALLENGED WITHOUT HAVING A CHANCE TO DEFEND HIMSELF.

Now that being said..these threads about agreeing/disagreeing with Ray Are useless to our readers, they ALREADY KNOW were they agree, or disagree with Ray Smith, We dont need to take a poll!

And now since I locked the topic, I'm sure 20% will feel i'm being unfair, and Am a follower of Ray, and blind, and want to silence the opposition, and on..and on..and on.. [ive heard it all before]... And i'm sorry i cannot convince you otherwise.

But beleive me when i say, There are hundreds of pages of material on this site yet to be discussed.

I hope you can understand.

Chris R

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