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YellowStone:
Bible Codes used to interest me, I mean the concept of hidden messages was quite fascinating. However, it only took one short moment to realize how ridiculous the code ideology was. :)

I was watching a so-called bible code documentary on TV, and these guys were demonstrating how you could find all kinds of things, from word placement, counting words, rearranging word letters, etc. All with a MODERN TRANSLATION  ??? ??? ??? Give me a break  ;D Talk about second-day quarterbacking. :)

Is this not a sign of carnal thinking. Is this not an example too of such as these attempting to change the word of God?   :(

Rom 1:25  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

It is however, only natural for man to seek out things in order to learn what he yet does not know. However, Christ spoke in parables so that the world would not understand. The true (spiritual) meaning of His many words of counsel spoken to the multitudes were never understood.

Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: 

However, his followers were let in on the truth behind the parable.

Mar 4:34  But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples

Why would God choose to encode secret messages or hidden truths in modern bible text to be understood only by the unenlightened?

Not even Christ knew of the day or time of his final coming.

Matthew 24:36 But of that DAY and HOUR knoweth no man, no, not the ANGELS of Heaven, but MY FATHER ONLY.

In fact Christ taught everything that he was given to teach. :)

John 12:48 For I have not spoken OF MYSELF; but the FATHER which sent me, He gave me a commandment, WHAT I should say, and what I should SPEAK.

John 12:50 Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

John 5:19 The Son can do NOTHING of himself, but what He seeth the Father do: for what things he doeth, these doeth the Son likewise.

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do NOTHING: as I HEAR, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the FATHER which hath sent me.

John 8:28 I do NOTHING of myself; but as my Father hath TAUGHT me, I speak THESE THINGS.

John 14:10 The words that I speak unto you I speak NOT OF MYSELF: but the FATHER that dwelleth in me, He doeth the works.

John 15:10 I have kept my FATHER'S commandments.

John 14:24 The word which ye hear is NOT MINE, but the FATHER'S which sent me.

John 17:14 I have given them THY WORD.

I think the following Scripture speaks volumes regarding this subject.

Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.  

Comments welcome.....

With love in Christ,
Darren

iris:
Those were great scriptures Darren.
Thanks for sharing.


Iris

Deborah-Leigh:
Our "end of the world"...as we know it is when we die which could be WAY BEFORE 2012. Jesus Christ holds the keys! He knows who will be here when He returns and who will be resurrected to judgment and who will be resurrected to Election and Reward. He knows His Sheep!

2 Tim 4 : 3 For the time is coming when people will not tolerate, endure sound and wholesome instruction (Ray estimates that only about 200 TWO HUNDRED people may be following his teachings!) but, having ears ITCHING FOR SOMETHING PLEASING AND GRATIFYING ( Bible Codes, The Davinci Code, over 3000 different Christian denominations! ) they will GATHER TO THEMSELVES, one teacher after another to a considerable number (TBN !) chosen to satisfy their own liking (need for entertainment) and to foster the ERRORS THEY HOLD.  4. And will turn aside from hearing the truth and wander off into myths and MAN-MADE FICTIONS. 5. AS FOR YOU, be calm and cool and stead, accept and suffer unflinchingly every hardship......

Jesus said and WE CAN BELIEVE! Matt 16 : 4 A WICKED AND MORALLY UNFAITHFUL GENERATION craves a sign, but NO SIGN shall be given to it  EXCEPT the sign of the prophet Jonah.

Repentance for any participation or leaning towards the dabbling and infatuations of Mystery Babylon would be a profitable way to prepare for the return of Christ who alone is THE SIGN.

It is refreshing to see that Bible Codes and the like appears not to have taken hold of anyone here in this thread.  8) The above sentence is for whosoever it fits! ;D

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

eggi:
Good point Arcturus!

We are NOT to think about these things in the traditional external way, looking for signs.

If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;

Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee. (Deu 13:1-5 KJV)

Don't believe in numerology and stuff like that. Aren't you aware of "The Moby Dick Code"? Many assassinations are foretold in that novel! PROOF: http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html

Or what about the site that "proves" that Jesus is Buddha by referring to numbers found both in Buddhist texts and the Bible? Example:

"John 1:19-2:11 is a unit having the size of 1550 syllables, which is also the numerical value of ho Khristos (70+600+100+10+200+300+70+200 = 1550), mentioned in John 1:20 & 25. Again, John 1:1-18 has the size of 496 syllables, identical with the numerical value of monogenês (40+70+50+70+3+50+8+200 = 496), mentioned in John 1:14 & 18."

Or you could take the Sanskrit Word TRi-RaTNaS and "magically" change it to the the Latin TRi-NiTaS. Can't you see how UTTERLY stupid and insane these "theories" are? Shun them like the plague! You have been warned!

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Eirik

Great to see you in the Forum with the Word of God sword shining! Those Scriptures fit perfectly! 8)

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

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