Trinity question .

[Jrila]

hey this topic here is whut will determine if we go to heaven or not so lets find some answers. were all christains here so i dont want any confusion? this is somethin i very much so, like discussing. 

my brothers and sisters why dont we believe that the holy spirit is God. before we jump to conclusions or  say that he isnt god, lets dig deep into the bible and find some answers.


we now jesus is god and eternal because isaiah 9:6 says that he wii be called wonderfull counselor mighty god, and eternal father.

will the question is how can he be the son of god and the father at the same time? well lets read romans 1:3 regarding his son, as to his human nature was a descendant of david, and through the spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the son of god or( as some manuscripts say, was appointed to be the son of God with power)by his resurrection from the dead

so originally, he wasn't the son of God. he was appointed to be! so who was jesus originally? isaiag 9:6

the eternal father! he's the son of God because he was the first one resurrected. you see jesus started a whole new humanity and one day if we believe, will be transformed in a twinkling of an eye just like jesus heis! Hallelujah!

and jesus was never created he's referred to as first born to show his importance. this was a hebrew way of saying someone is specially honored. just like david was called firstborn psalm 89:27  but we all know that david wasn't the firstborn but actually was the youngest.

and this verse here  1timothy 3:16 and without great controversy great is the mystery of godliness God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit,  seen by angels, preached unto the gentiles, ect

ok now  if the holy spirit isnt equal to God, why are baptized in the name of the father, son, and the holy spirit? 

why does peter reffer to the holy spirit as god acts 5:3

the  holy spirit is the spirit of god how can we seperate the two? thats just like sayin our own spirit isnt truly us isnt it? we are all spirits in a body. what we look like isn't who we truly are who we truly are is inside of us. Gods spirit is who he trully is how did the prophets write the bible? through the holy spirit and the word is god. u see u cant seperat gods word from him or his spirit there both the same.


last qustion i have is this, if there is no jesus how can we see god? if there is no holy spirit how can god live in us?   

[Craig]

Jrila I suggest you do a few things.

1)  Read the forum Rules and how it is moderated

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2)  Read Rays study on this subject.  And many emails

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3)  Listen to Rays latest audio on Christ, located at the bottom

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Craig