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Free Speech?
seminole:
Just in response to the name of this thread, I don't think free speech really exists. It is dependant on whatever group you find yourself in at the time. Not to knock the rules but the rules here do limit what is or can be said. When I worked in the mill it was forbidden to speak of the union in any kind of positive way because the company didn't want to be unionized. It would have been better for us employees but more costly to the owners. People who did speak of wanting the union were fired. Free speech doesn't exist. It depend on what you say and where you are. If I said something like," Ray is blind, hell is real, the church has all the answers, and so on, I would get kicked out just like I would have been fired for speaking favorably about a union.
Nole
mari_et_pere:
Nole,
I agree with ya, however think about this: If I went to a "celebate teens" forum and posted porn, or a "new parents" forum and posted pics of dead babies, I probably wouldn't be very appreciated.
On the same token, if I came here spreading heresies, I wouldn't be very welcome. Now I could come here and ASK, "Is hell real?" Or "What's really wrong with church?" Nothing wrong there. That's different than just blatantly spreading crap. There's trouble-making statements, then there's honest questions. There's also the option of saying the appropriate thing in the appropriate place.
I do agree though that we don't really have free speech. We have LIMITED FREE SPEECH. :D ;D
Practicing my right of almost free speech,
Matt
hillsbororiver:
I would also not recommend shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre! ;D
A couple quotes on free speech;
"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously."
Hubert Horatio HUMPHREY
U.S. Vice President 1965–69 (1911–78)
"I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking."
Woodrow WILSON
28th President of the United States (1856-1924)
And some verses on how we should always exercise our speech and words with others;
Pro 10:19 In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.
Pro 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.
Pro 23:9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
Pro 26:21 As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious man to kindle strife.
Pro 29:20 Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.
Ecc 10:12 The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious; but the lips of a fool will swallow up himself.
Is anything at all really "free?" Are there not causes and consequences for every thought we think, words we speak & actions we have taken?
Peace,
Joe
mari_et_pere:
Joe, I'm a pretty quiet dude, to the point that some people probably think I'm a bit weird, so Pro 17:28 is my verse! Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. I love it LOL.
quietly Wise and Understanding :-X,
Matt
skydreamers:
--- Quote ---We have LIMITED FREE SPEECH.
--- End quote ---
Hey Matt, is that something like "limited free will"??? :D ;D
Just kidding of course,
Peace,
Diana
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