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mari_et_pere:
I posted this on another post but I think it'll fit here good:
--- Quote ---I've noticed something in my sister in law and brother in law. They are VERY involved in their church. They eat sleep and breath it. They are youth ministers, do sunday school, clean the church, go to ALL the outside activities, bla bla bla bla blah. Well here's what I've noticed about them. They seem to have a faith in "the message" and "the work" more than IN GOD or IN JESUS CHRIST.
Anytime (at least 9 out of 10, bare minimum) we ask them if they want to go out, or come over, just hang out, we get the response of "oh we're so busy with CHURCH tonight." It's almost CULT-ISH.
But what I'm getting at is, and Darren hit on this. Most people feel the need to have faith in something. For some it's drugs, or sex, or a god. For some, it's church itself. The act of being involved in church. The feeling of "serving God" by helping "the church" as they call it, do it's stuff." Kind of sad because in the long run, what a waste of time it will have been.
Peace
Matt
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Church is wasting people's lives as far as I'm concerned. But it is what it is cuz God made it be so what can ya do but sit back and watch?
Peace
Matt
Redbird:
Dear Rob and Matt,
I totally understand what you are saying. Your women sure are lucky to have such blessed and caring men. :) This also reminds me of Jesus's words;
Luke 10:38 Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house. 39 And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word. 40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me. 41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: 42 But one thing is needful; and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.
Now fellows, in John 11:5, we learn... although Mary was more favored, The Lord also loved Martha;
Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.
Peace to you dear brothers.
Lisa
mrsnacks:
I get what you mean about the church is wasting people's lives. But is it really ?
I think that is part of the journey. I went through the many churches. That was God's way of showing me this isn't it. I had to experience this myself. We learn by contrast. God's classroom is life and that is where we learn. So our experiences are valuable because we see now thanks to God. So we can relate. We have walked in their shoes so we can have compassion and understanding for them. How can a person who can't swim teach someone to swim. So I don't think it is a waste even though it seems like it. The apostate church system is where God brings His people out of.
hart4god:
Hey to All,
I know that the church seems to be (or is) quite the antithesis of anything spiritual. But God did promise (in the end) a church w/o spot or wrinkle. I have cried so many tears over the course of my journey to see that come to pass and the church just continues on in its hypocricy, carnality and denial of the Truth. Yet, it will happen-God has promised and I can finally stop crying!
But it must be that way.
The church was like a long dark hallway that I (and maybe many others) had to walk through in order to come out into the Light. My prayer now is that others would hunger and thirst for Truth and not be satisfied with the carnal pleasures of the "christian lifestyle" which we also lived in the same way that Rob's girlfriend and Matt's family do.....somehow hoping that it would be "righteous".
Even though only God can make someone hunger and thirst for righteousness and truth, sometimes I hope I can salt their tongues a little with my words and life.....but then again, maybe not. ;)
All is of God so there is peace in the midst of it.
judie h.
blakparty:
Thank you Judith and Lisa. Your words are very comforting and I thank God that you are in this forum. I did at one time miss my church family but you all have helped me forget, well not totally forget about that family. I now grieve about all of them because they do not know the deep things of God and this I know is God's will. To be chosen is the greatest blessing there is. I can truly say that knowing this is better than all the money in the world (not that I don't mind all the money in the world LOL). Once again, thank you all and I do love you all. God Bless, Rob.
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