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mari_et_pere:
I just thought of a great way to explain why God seems to have empathy. I hope this example hasn't been used because I'm very tired from 12 hours of work and I must admit that I didn't read this thread, I just scimmed through. :-[
But......as a father of three young children, I must discipline. Sometimes I must spank them. I know I have to, and to be honest I want to raise my children to be upstanding so I'm happy to punish them in hopes that they'll learn a lesson. Yet I'm SORRY that I have to. I'm REGRETFUL that I cause them the pain of a spanking, both the physical and the emotional. Yet I'm NOT SORRY because I honestly feel blessed for the opportunity to teach them right from wrong; to learn from their mistakes. Make sense?
Therefore I now truely know why it says that God, or Jesus, was sorry or regretful. At least I think I do. :)
Matt
Kat:
Hi Beth,
I think Ray used that word when he was talking about the universe.
I know that seems like a strange thing to say, bizzarre. Bizzarre means strikingly unusual or odd, fantastic-Webster's.
But just to think about what we have in the vastness of outer space, the millions of planets, suns and all that has been discovered, not to mention what is not yet known. The way the planets work together in there orbits, Ray gave so much more details about the wonders of it all.
And here we are these tiny creatures on this planet.
Just trying to comtemplate the vaseness of the universe kind of blows your mind. Our minds just can't comprehend much about how this creation came about or is working. It is bizzarre that it is all here and perfectly working together. We except it all just because it's there and we have to, but to reflect on God thinking this all up and bringing it into existence, and now holding it all together, it is bizzarre.
That just how I was seeing what Ray was saying :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
hillsbororiver:
Ray had brought up the point that I suspect most if not all of us had thought of at one time or another, "does God really have to do it this way? Couldn't He have just created us a completed creature, what's up with all the pain, suffering, disappointment, grief and frustration?"
I know I have entertained the notion that I could have done a better job, one without all the trials and tribulations involved in this purification process, but I have found that I really know nothing, without the guiding grace of faith in Him any world we would create or even participate in would be doomed to a miserable failure. Our carnal, earthly, fleshly existence is only a temporary means to gain eternal spiritual wisdom and true life, the flesh was created to be disposed of but it clings to the carnal life in a desperate attempt to drown out the Spirit of Truth, the very essence of life itself.
He knows that in our present state we do not yet see the perfect Wisdom that is God.
Isa 28:21 For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.
Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
LittleBear:
Hi Beth,
I'm on dial-up and don't have the ability to listen to audio too.
What I do is go to the library and either use their computers which are high speed, or I can take my computer to the library and connect to WiFi (I haven't done that yet, but I know I can.) It's free both ways. The problem is I have to WAIT until I have time to get to the library! (Sigh)
There may be other places that have free WiFi, but I don't know of any.
Love,
Ursula
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