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Should I forgive someone who has done Mark 3: 27-30?
Nancy:
hi there all,
I have to challenge you all here as i have suffered terribly, thinking that i have committed this sin myself, and i cannot let this go!
This sin is a person knowing how Jesus healed (that He healed using Gods' power) like the Pharisees did (as their own disciples healed with Gods' power) but rebuke and slander that power,rebuking the person healing, in this case, Christ. So Jesus said that they were not really slandering Him but God Himself! To score points, they were blaspheming God Himself and they knew it!
I do not believe that it can be committed today, as it can only be committed in this age (Jesus' age) and the age to come, the millenium age)
St. Paul tells us to test the spirits to see if they are from God and not counterfeit and that the devil can appear as an angel of light. Believers couldn't have done this if they were afraid of committing this sin.
I also believe that miracles that were performed in Acts (speaking in languages, healing, raising the dead, and not being poisoned by snakes) are not for today.
I do not believe that it is unrepented sin, not accepting an altar call (whatever that is) i was told by one person.
I was terrified that i had committed it because i had blaspemous thoughts such as 'i agree what the pharisees said' and thoughts like that and having terrible language together with God and Jesus' name, etc. It is pretty painful even to write these things down but i have to, to get over the fear of it, so i hope that you all have pity and bear with me in this.
God bless
Nancy
Kat:
Hi Nancy,
It sounds like you are still in a lot of pain over this sin :(
I have suffered a lot remembering sin in my past, guilt is a terrible thing. But when God leads you to repentance, you can be sure He will forgive you. I think you can then put your old life in the pass, and free to grow in the truth.
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
v. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Here is an email from Ray, I hope it will help :)
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Dear Alan:
If you had committed what is popularly referred to as "The Unpardonable SIN," believe me when I tell you, that you would not be worried about it. People who blaspheme against God's Holy Spirit and lower Jesus down to their level or the level of Satan or demons, do not worry at all about what they have done. If you are deeply concerned that you may have offended God, then for sure that is not an attitude of blaspheming God's Holy Spirit. It doesn't mean that you are saved, as we must all overcome and endure to be saved in the resurrection to life, but you can rest in your spirit and have no fear that you are hopelessly lost, for you are not.
God be with you,
Ray
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John 8:32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
rocky:
IMO, there is a difference between sin done ignorantly versus willful sin.
IMO, willful sin, is not the daily sins we do, but the turning from grace back to law, denying the need for Christ, and trusting in the works of the law, which brings about second death (death again, through the law, the ministration of death).
Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen (fallen from where? imo from grace), and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
1Ti 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men (ignorant blasphemy imo): but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (willful sin, falling from grace) shall not be forgiven unto men.
Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away (from grace imo), to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Maybe this is where the different intensity of stripes comes in.
Few stripes for ignorant sin, many stripes for willful sin??
Deborah-Leigh:
Nancy
I think we can all empathise with you!
The nagging thought of inadequacy and sinful wretchedness lead me to wonder just how much confidence and hope and trust I placed in Christ and His death on Calvery. Just how powerful was that act of laying down His life, I asked myself? Did I trust Christ to deliver, heal and restore me? Was NOT TRUSTING Him the unpardonable sin perhaps?
Jesus Christ has given hope in Him by what He has accomplished at Calvery. Non can offer any merit to deserve this deliverance or forgiveness. Only Jesus can give us confidence and knowledge of the Love the Father has for Him and for us who love His Son. Are you not perhaps being given the opportunity to ask Christ to make you see, set you free and humble before His Greatness and Authority over anything anyone can ever do or earn punishment for. He converted the worst sinner Saul and renamed him Paul. Have you done worse than Saul? Okay Okay, I know that to break one law is to break ALL Laws. Is it not so that we break all laws anyway by not trusting Christ and knowing that we live no longer under Laws but Grace by faith?
Just some thoughts to think on perhaps Nancy that might help you.
For me the "unpardonable" sin is a Boogie Man that is not taught properly by the Churches who employ doctrines to bind, snare and terrify into captivity the sheep that are searching for the Shepherd.
To me an alive and awake conscience is better than a dead one and praise Jesus He is keeping your conscience alive and well and not seared as with a hot iron!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Nancy:
Hi there Kat,
No, the reason why i sound hurt, is that i suffered like i've never done before, because of feeling that i had committed this sin and no amount of reassurance took away that dreadful feeling. Not even elders or preachers could reassure me of what this sin was!! So if i can help one person, then i have done my job (through God of course)!
I probably have mentioned that i suffer from OCD which is also called the doubting disease. You have a thought, image, etc that is repugnant, then you have to do something to relieve the fear. It is to do with a lack of serotonin in the brain, so it is a physical condition which can't be helped.
Hope this makes sense.
God bless
Nancy
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