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CDJ:
Good morning everyone :-)

Regarding one of Ray's emails Thanks Ray...

Judgment begins with each one of us looking at ourselves. When reading about the conference and Ray mentioning "Dear Hoyt:  Like I said, they are mostly "religious hobbyists," just wanting to hear "some new thing," but have almost zero interest in obeying or pleasing God. It's sad indeed.", it made me think.

How do I/we judge myself/ourselves to know that we are not just "religious hobbyists" in some cases. I find all these Truths mind-boggling and I know deep inside that there isn't another Truth out there, as we have all been from one "truth" to the next, in order for us to finally see the 1 Truth.

Any thoughts?


Walk strong :-)
Carl D.J.

mari_et_pere:
1, We live in faith. 2, We have proof in the scriptures that what we believe is true. 3, If you have a heart for following Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and try to live like Him each day, then you're no hobbyist.

It sounds like Ray was referring to those who I call Sunday Christians. Pray and sing in church, then shout and cuss while football's on later. If you go to work with an ungodly attitude, but then sit at home and read about christianity, you're a hobbyist that he's referring to.

Peace.

Matt

Kat:
Hi Carl,

To me a hobby is something that you do on the side.  It is only for part time interest, something just for fun.
When I was part of the church I was devoted to being a good Christian.  But I was still only a part time thing for me.  I went to church and read the Bible accasionally and prayed, but most of the time my mind was not on religion at all.  I was very much in the world in many ways.

The difference now, and it is a vast difference, is that I am consumed with learning this truth.  It is on my mind most of the time.  I find myself studying the scripture a great deal.  Just reading Ray articles, there are many scriptures to study and confirm.  And on this forum many questions lead to studying through a lot of scripture. 
When I am away from the forum and not reading, I still find these truths are on my mind.  I meditate on this quite a bit, even if I'm watching tv, I'm relating the truth to what I'm seeing.  I like to just sit in a quiet place and meditate, but don't get to do that much.   I'm not saying I never stop thinking about this truth, but unlike before, I want to think about it all the time.  This Truth seems so right in my spirit, that I want to learn as much as I possibly can, and there is no end to what we can learn, so I never get tired of seeking more.
So the difference is really huge.  I know it is Christ that puts the desire and the comprehension of it all in us. That's how I see it, and I have a deep appreciation for Christ in my life.

Eph 3:14  For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
v. 15  from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
v. 16  that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man,
v. 17  that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love,
v. 18  may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height--
v. 19  to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
v. 20  Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
v. 21  to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

psalmsinger:
In my walk with the Father through Jesus Christ my Lord and my quest for His Truth, I have at one time or another been told by different religious groups that I was part of the small percentage of the population that is the "righteous protestant", "the house of Israel",  "the very elect", "7,000 who never bowed a knee to Baal", "the 144,000", "firstfruits", "gentiles who are grafted in",  and now I'm either in the 20% who will be back to the conference, or the 80% who are "religious hobbyests"  ;D  I'll not relate what I've been called outside of each of the groups ;D.  It is not about a group I may find myself a part of, or about me or about my experiences.  The only testimony I have is the testimony of Jesus Christ.  Where ever the Lord leads, I trust in His will and purpose for my life.  I will determine like Paul to only know Jesus Christ and Him crucified, and not to judge anything or anyone before it's time,  Praise God!

1 Cor 2:2
2   For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. (KJV)

1 Cor 4:4-5
4   For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
5   Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
(KJV)

Barbara

Deborah-Leigh:
For me Religious Hobbyist shows two things. First Religious. That is the Religious spirit after the things of The Spirit like Simon the sorcerer. In for themselves. Trying to buy in, get in or be in the inner circle of faith without faith, without sincerity. Rather like a chicken. Prepared to lay an egg or two but not like a pig, that is prepared to give the bacon! That for me means someone who is willing to be persecuted and carry their cross to the death. The sorcerer was someone considered great too! So even the Pope can be called a Religious Hobbyist having the appearance of being religious in the true way but being far from it and given to heresy and the teachings of falsehood. Great Religious leaders can be just like the sorcerer so religious hobbyist is a gentle way of describing those given to error who might be great in the eyes of "Religion".

Acts  8 : 9 A man named Simon had been a sorcerer there for many years, claiming to be someone great. The Samaritan people from the least to the greatest, often spoke of him as the Great One - the Power of God. He was very influential because of the magic he performed. ......18 When Simon saw that the Holy Spirit was given when the apostles placed their hands upon people's head, he offered money to buy THIS POWER.....

It sure takes the Power of God to stand against the world and Mystery Babylon as Ray is doing!  :D ;D that might cause folks to come and investigate and not stick around when they find they can not trade or buy what only God can give!

Hobbyist is like Kat said.  For me too it is part time, side line, feel good entertainment. Not anything like a cross.

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

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