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Robert:
I am interested in apologetics for Creation. Until recently, I’ve believed in the six, literal-day view, but I’ve found some problems with that. Has anyone got scriptural evidence for day-age understanding? I have accumulated some.

rocky:
Something i always thought was interesting was that it wasnt' till day three that we had the sun to determine days and years, yet there was day 1 and 2 prior to this. 

Gen 1:13  And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Gen 1:14  And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Ward:
Robert:

I don't know that I have "scriptural evidence for day-age understanding."  But...

I have been taught that the Genisis account was not like Revelation in that Moses was never said to have had a vision, but was given (told?) what to write...  Meaning he was not interpretting what he saw and writing it down.

Now, like Rocky points out, "...the sun to determine days and years..." were not created until the 3rd day...  But yet, "nights and days," occurred prior to that.  Even the Earth existed before that, albeit in chaos.

All of that suggested this...  From what perspective were these, "nights and days," determined?  Remember a, "night and day" are different here on the Earth than the moon or any of the unknown number of planets, moons and stars.  Why should we impose upon the words of the Genisis description of, "night and days," the limitations of Earth?  Especially when the listed, "night and days," preexists the Earth's sun?

My understanding is that the Genisis description was given to us.  From God.  From what perspective does God determine, "a night and day?"  Answer: Unknown to man at this time.  Just because the Scriptures speak to man of, earthly "nights and days," does not mean that God is limited to exist within them.  God exists within and without all limitations.  Thus, the Genisis description maybe given from within and without.

I've spent more than a few hours studying and thinking about this subject.  At this point, what I have been given is to accept the correctly translated words of Scripture and do not add to them.  Accept that we are not given the answer to every question, YET.

Personally, I am confounded by people that argue about this and things like the age of the Earth and even Darwinism.  Now admittedly I don't know the details of Darwin's theories and don't care to spend time studying them, but...  My guess is that Darwin is wrong.  My guess is that the "6 Literal Days" for creation is wrong.  Man and dinosaurs existing together is wrong.  Blah... Blah... Blah...  Is it important? NOPE! 

Well, those are one person's thoughts...  I'd be more than happy to hear what others think.  If I am wrong, then maybe one of you is the one that God will use to lead me to the truth. ;)

\/\/ard

skydreamers:
This is also something interesting which Ray points out:

Genesis 2:4 KJV
4  These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Here God expresses creating the earth and the heavens in "a" day (singular).  Never saw this before until I heard Ray point it out in one of his audios (I think in the first one of the latest from the Nashville conference).

Very interesting indeed.

Peace,
Diana

andrevan:
I am undecided on the length of creation days. i believe it is 6 days as the Scriptures state, but the actual hours or length is still unclear.

Adam was created on day 6 along with all the land dwelling animals, then dinosaurs would have been created and dwelt before Adam.

Adam was the LAST creature to be created, AFTER the land animals. The dinosaurs and many other creatures no longer with us would have gone extinct after the Flood, due to the huge changes in the earth and the climate. Their fossils are still being uncovered today in the sedimentary layers laid down during and after the Flood. The Scriptures contain real history.
Do we think that dinosaurs were exempted from going onto the Ark? Secular thinking has convinced most of us that dinosaurs and man could not have lived together, do we live together today with wild beasts, not really. What about all the legends of "dragons", they could be about dinosaurs. The term "dinosaur" was only coined in the 1800's, there was no word "dinosaur" before that, but "dragon" was used.

I do not believe man was "primitive" as secular thinking goes, but was always intelligent and to a degree civilised, except for perhaps immediately after the Flood when cities had to be rebuilt.

Adam lived into his late 900's, if the 6th day was thousands of years old, this doesn't seem to fit with his age being only 900-odd years. He was created on the 6th "day" which came to AN END. He lived roughly the same length as others in his generation and after who were born AFTER the creation was complete, so how could the 6th day be thousands of years as some insist?

I read in Usher's Annals of the World that "evening and morning" for the Hebrews also referred to the colder months (evening) and warmer months (morning) of a year. Perhaps the days were years in length.

Possibly Adam did not have to name the entire species of land animals, but the ones in proximity to him making it possible to do so in a short time.

Many Christians have been hoodwinked by secular origins beliefs into believing that everything is very very old, yet we have gravitic time dilation, a theory that fits a short creation time frame with stars that a billions of light years away.

So there are many things to take into account when looking into this, I've thrown some of my own thoughts into the mix here, but there are many other things to look into as well, eg: carbon dating methods, rates of decay of radio isotopes, radiohalos, etc.

Peace to you. :)
Andrevan.

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