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Six-Day Creation
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Robert on June 08, 2007, 01:46:47 AM ---
What I don't believe is that there was a world-wide flood and there were many people like Noah around the world who built a number of arks and replenished their various countries. I doubt that is what you believe but it could, upon a surface reading be construed that way.
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Hi Robert,
You are absolutely right! I do not believe that!
What I do believe and what my point was that the message of this flood has reached the ends of the earth, pretty much every culture in the world has this legend that something catastrophic did indeed happen, if nothing else the message of Noah has covered the entire earth if in fact the actual physical water did not.
It is truly remarkable how tribes and/or remote cultures had this legend deeply ingrained in their "history" before any recorded contact with Semitic or western culture or missionaries of any kind.
His Peace to you,
Joe
mari_et_pere:
Sorry to change the subject back to the orginal. :D But,
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
The earth was without form, and void (empty). Darkness was upon it. The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. So this formless, voided, water covered earth was all there was. Why? I've read viewpoints of previous activity on the earth. The Scriptures don't rule it out. Watcha think?
Matt
indianabob:
Andrevan,
Regarding the DAY of giving of an account. It seems to me that the purpose here is to convict a person of their habit of sin or selfishness or gossip etc. In that case the judgement process would not have to go over every instance of using an idle (useless or thoughtless) word, but rather would lend itself to convincing a person that they needed to repent in tears and sorrow for the hurt they had caused others. Once they understand their own error or sin, then repentance would cover all other instances of the same or similar sin, just as it does with us in this day of correction for the Elect.
Thanks for reading, Indiana Bob
--- Quote from: skydreamers on May 30, 2007, 12:25:33 PM ---Hi All,
What about this?
Matthew 12:36
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
I find it hard to imagine that this is speaking of a literal day...how on earth will every man give account for every idle word in 24 hours????
Genesis 2:17
17 but you shall not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. For in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.
Isn't humanity continuing to eat of this tree (spiritually) every day until the close of the ages??
Perhaps there is a literal application as well as a spiritual application to the word "day". I find it interesting to seek out the spiritual application of the six days of creation.
Andrevan,
I think I'm with you in seeing this:
--- Quote ---God has not finished creating us into His image and likeness yet, so I'm not sure that we're in the 7th Day, because God is still creating mankind. Yes, all other life has been created past tense, because they are not being created into God's image, only Mankind. His work is not yet finished in this regard.
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I wonder even if most of humanity is still in the 5th day spiritually speaking:
Genesis 1:25
25 And God made the beasts of the earth ...
What is man but a beast....it isn't until we recognize the beast within us that God begins to conform us into His image....I see the Elect as being in the sixth day, as it is this group that God is training to have:
Genesis 1:26
...dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the heavens, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over all the creepers creeping on the earth.
In the next age, the Elect will truly have this dominion over the fish of the sea (all the rest of humanity...the nations), the fowl of the heavens (evil spirits...do you not know that you shall judge angels?), over the cattle (the beast within), over all the earth (many called...Christians) and over all the creepers creeping on the earth (okay, I haven't figured out what this one could be ;)...anyone?)
I know many believe that the 7th day will be the millennium period/age, but I'm wondering if the millennium age is actually the 6th day and the 7th day is the end when Jesus gives back the kingdom to the Father, and God is all in all, and we shall all have perfect rest.
This may not be exactly what this thread is about, but I felt compelled to add this, just to give an alternative perspective as to how the 6 days could be a spiritual parable.
Of course, that doesn't rule out at all some literal application...
May God open our eyes on the matter, if it be in His will, :)
Peace,
Diana
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Kat:
Hi Matt,
You bring up a interesting point about the earth being in Gen 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep."
Now you can say that Gen. 1:1, the creation of the universe, could have happened a long time before God started creating life on earth in verse 2.
Though it seems that the earth is unique in all that we know about the other planets. It may have started out similar to what the other planets look like. But then God continued it here on earth and created a wonder life filled planet. I think unique in that aspect, in the universe.
Was a day of creation a 24 hour period? Here are the uses of the same word used for 'day' in the Genesis creation, throughout the scripture. The numbers in pharases are the number of times that word is used in scripture from the greek word for day.
H3117
day
יום
yom (398a); a prim. root; day: - afternoon *(1), age (08), age *(1), all (1), always *(14), amount *(2), battle (1), birthday *(1), Chronicles *(38), completely *(1), continually *(14), course *(1), daily (22), daily the days (1), day (1115), day of the days (1), day that the period (1), day’s (6), day’s every day (1), daylight *(1), days (635), days on the day (1), days to day (1), days you shall daily (1), days ago (1), days’ (11), each (1), each day (4), entire (2), eternity (1), evening *(1), ever in your life *(1), every day (2), fate (1), first (5), forever *(11), forevermore *(1), full (5), full year (1), future *(1), holiday *(3), later *(2), length (1), life (12), life *(1), lifetime (2), lifetime *(1), live (1), long (2), long as I live (1), long *(11), midday *(1), now (5), older *(1), once (2), period (3), perpetually *(2), present (1), recently (1), reigns (1), ripe *(1), short-lived *(1), so long *(1), some time (1), survived *(2), time (45), time *(1), times *(2), today (172), today *(1), usual (1), very old *(1), when (10), when the days (1), whenever (1), while (3), whole (2), year (10), yearly (5), years (13), yesterday *(1).
Maybe the days of creation went back to the beginning of the creation of the universe and came forward to the creation of man, just a thought.
Something else that I find interesting, is this verse;
Jere. 4:23 "I looked on the earth, and behold, it was without form and void; and to the heavens, and they had no light."
Sounds a lot like Genesis 1:2, but this is talking about how Christ will find the earth when He returns.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
YellowStone:
Hi Kat,
You wrote: Maybe the days of creation went back to the beginning of the creation of the universe and came forward to the creation of man, just a thought.
I believe that this is very probable; because without a doubt God did create dinosaurs and there is no mention of them anywhere in the Scriptures. This is not to say that they didn't exist, just that weren't around in time of Adam. If this view is correct, does it not remove all doubt regarding 6 literal man days.
Great point sister :)
Your brother in Christ,
Love
Darren
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