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Six-Day Creation
mari_et_pere:
--- Quote ---We are in the 6 age because 6 is the number of a man, or the number of Man. 7 is also the number of completion, or perfection.
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WHAT??? I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely 100% NO sense at all. No offense. For real. But.....we are in the 6th age ONLY because 6 is the number of man? What? This is the only age that has had man in it or something? I'm not following you here. If you can give me some scriptures that says we're in age 6 because 6 is the number of man then I'll buy it for sure.
As far as your evolution post goes, I agree somewhat. I was thinking about the dog scenario just the other night. There are hundreds of dog breeds. They've been crossbred for many generations. We have dogs that would have been unrecognizable 100 years ago, let alone 1,000. This is what's happened to mankind after Adam. Humans have crossbred between the races to make what humankind is today. Speaking of Adam, what would he think if he met a white man? He may have never even seen one.
BUT...this doesn't prove evolution of species. Species definitely change, but there is no proof of humans coming from lower species, no amebas turning into frogs, no two-legged fish crawling up to the shore and becoming apes, etc etc etc. There's none.
So yes, over time species adapt to their climate, they may become a little larger or smaller, maybe inter-breed and a new breed comes about, or as humans, a little whiter, but does that prove Darwin's, or anyone else's, evolution theories? I've never seen any proof that a species can change into a whole different species, no matter what the time span in question is.
Matt
skydreamers:
Hi rvhill,
I think I see what you are saying. I'm still contemplating this and studying it out when I can. You are probably right, and we are in the 6th age. This may be way out there, but for some reason I was thinking in a spiritual/symbolic sense the 5th day can refer to the "sea of humanity":
Then God said, "Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens." And God created the great sea monsters, and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.
Genesis 1:20-23
I think this is speaking literally to be sure, but spiritually I wondered if the symbols could point to a general state of the people in the entire world. The condition most of humanity are in, in not realizing they are "beasts". This is why I was thinking the 6th day (or stage of spiritual development) may belong to the Elect, as they do realize they are "beasts" and then begin the process of having dominon.
And God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good. Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them..... And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.
Genesis 1:25-31
It is my understanding that it is the Elect that are now being brought through the process of being conformed spiritually in the image of God (while in the flesh)....so I thought it was interesting that the beasts were made first, and then God began forming man in His image. This seems to line up with what Ray teaches in that seeing the beast in you comes before being spiritually conformed in His image...This is why I thought that if you spiritually do not see that you are "the beast" (666), you are still back in stage 5...a part of the great sea of humanity. I've just been seeing the 6 day creation as our spiritual process, symbolically speaking.
But that is not to say that I don't think they have historical literal applications. The physical comes first, then the spiritual.
However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual.
1 Corinthians 15:46
Anyways, I can't say that I'm right about this, these have just been some of my thoughts on this as to why I thought most of humanity were in "the 5th day". I just throw it out there in case someone has seen something similar, and if not, it's all good, God will make it clear in His time.
God bless us in our studies,
Peace,
Diana
iris:
( Speaking of Adam, what would he think if he met a white man? He may have never even seen one. )
Adam and eve were probably able to produce all colors. If they were not able to do this, where did all the different colors come from?
Iris
mari_et_pere:
Iris, I'm not sure just because I don't know exactly how God did things, but from what I've understood over time is that the Tower of Babel had a lot to do with that.
Also, I'm sure that over time, like I said, humans have changed. rvhill isn't totally off base when he says genes change slightly from one generation to the next. They change within the species, so humans have indeed changed over time. To say Adam produced every single different race of people is probably off target though.
Of course as usual, there's probably more qualified people than myself to answer that. ;D
Matt
rvhill:
--- Quote from: mari_et_pere on June 13, 2007, 11:32:50 AM ---
--- Quote ---We are in the 6 age because 6 is the number of a man, or the number of Man. 7 is also the number of completion, or perfection.
--- End quote ---
WHAT??? I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely 100% NO sense at all. No offense. For real. But.....we are in the 6th age ONLY because 6 is the number of man? What? This is the only age that has had man in it or something? I'm not following you here. If you can give me some scriptures that says we're in age 6 because 6 is the number of man then I'll buy it for sure.
As far as your evolution post goes, I agree somewhat. I was thinking about the dog scenario just the other night. There are hundreds of dog breeds. They've been crossbred for many generations. We have dogs that would have been unrecognizable 100 years ago, let alone 1,000. This is what's happened to mankind after Adam. Humans have crossbred between the races to make what humankind is today. Speaking of Adam, what would he think if he met a white man? He may have never even seen one.
BUT...this doesn't prove evolution of species. Species definitely change, but there is no proof of humans coming from lower species, no amebas turning into frogs, no two-legged fish crawling up to the shore and becoming apes, etc etc etc. There's none.
So yes, over time species adapt to their climate, they may become a little larger or smaller, maybe inter-breed and a new breed comes about, or as humans, a little whiter, but does that prove Darwin's, or anyone else's, evolution theories? I've never seen any proof that a species can change into a whole different species, no matter what the time span in question is.
Matt
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mari_et_pere and skydreamers it all has to do with numerology. Each number to the ancient Hebrews had other meanings beside a numerical value. 6 is the number of man. 1 and 7 are numbers of God because they are the beginning and the end, alpha and omega. The mark of the beast 666 is man as god, because 6 is the number of a man, and any number cubed is absolute. Since God is absolute it mean man as god. Which goes back to the whole Gen 3:5 for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as God, knowing good and evil.
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