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skydreamers:

--- Quote ---Hey Hi all,
            Well I jus wanted 2 say it is defintly GODS WilL, lastnite mE & my Wife actually sat & talked (fellowshipped), wow! I just Thank GOD so much, az my Wife usually would say aw! darln I really dont wana Hear it so I wouldnt go der. But! lastnite she just came out wit all dez Questions & man! I just so Thank da LORD! I could answer dem (even Kat wouldntve answered dem n e betta lol!) (muchLOVE! Kat Smiley). I just referred her back 2 da old Testiment & every fing d@ went on in dem daeZ! combined wit all d@ goes on bhind da scenes JUST! hw much GOD!!! really!!!! is in Control!!!!!!, Then & NOW!!!, & I really believe it really started Hitting! home, Thank YOU FATHER muuaaahhhh!!!!!, I em so ova da moon bcoZ! everyfing! is so bcummn Klearer!!! every second & minute of da day! n da mighty! name of our LORD! & our SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST! Amen! & Amen!.
           muchLOVE!! Pera
ps. Just want 2 Thank the LORD! again! lol! muuaaahhhh!!!!!
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Awesome brother!  Amen and high-fives to ya! 



It's exhilerating when we see God's power working!

Matthew 10:19-20
...take no thought how or what you shall speak; for it shall be given you in that same hour what you shall speak. For it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you.

God has blessed you and your wife, Praise the Almighty!! 

Peace,
Diana

mari_et_pere:
Snacks, just a suggestion here, but remember to take the words of God over men. Your christian philosophy class couldn't hold water against what God says, IMHO. No offense bro, just reminding you of something I know that you already know.  :)

Matt

mrsnacks:

--- Quote from: mari_et_pere on June 01, 2007, 12:42:37 AM ---Snacks, just a suggestion here, but remember to take the words of God over men. Your christian philosophy class couldn't hold water against what God says, IMHO. No offense bro, just reminding you of something I know that you already know.  :)

Matt

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I do agree. I was just presenting you with the response to God and evil as presented from the seminaries and this is what is being taught in Christendom. What we do need to do is present an apologetic ( defense of the gospel ) from the Greek word "apologia." Which in English is a reasoned defense as they do it in a court of law for our beliefs. Is there anything said by Aquinas is right  concerning evil ?

skydreamers:

--- Quote ---Evil is not something that has an existence of its own; rather it is a corruption of that which already exists. EVIL IS THE ABSENCE OR PRIVATION OF SOMETHING GOOD. Rot, for example, can only exist as long as the tree exists. Tooth decay can only exist as long as the tooth exists. Rust on a car and a decaying carcass illustrate the same point. Evil exists as a corruption of something good; it is a privation and does not have essence by itself. Norman Geisler tells us, "Evil is like a wound in an arm or moth-holes in a garment. It exists only in another but not in itself.
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What do you call then that which caused the rot, tooth decay, rust and decaying carcass?  Something happened before these states to cause these states.  Not every tree rots and not every tooth decays.

Evil: Hebrew word "Ra"

BDB Definition:
1) bad, evil (adjective)
1a) bad, disagreeable, malignant
1b) bad, unpleasant, evil (giving pain, unhappiness, misery)
1c) evil, displeasing
1d) bad (of its kind - land, water, etc)
1e) bad (of value)
1f) worse than, worst (comparison)
1g) sad, unhappy
1h) evil (hurtful)
1i) bad, unkind (vicious in disposition)
1j) bad, evil, wicked (ethically)
1j1) in general, of persons, of thoughts
1j2) deeds, actions
2) evil, distress, misery, injury, calamity (noun masculine)
2a) evil, distress, adversity
2b) evil, injury, wrong
2c) evil (ethical)
3) evil, misery, distress, injury (noun feminine)
3a) evil, misery, distress
3b) evil, injury, wrong
3c) evil (ethical)

It seems to me, since God himself is not evil, and therefore does not directly do evil, he creates a being (Satan) and uses him as an instrument to perform the necessary evil (which God does not take pleasure in but knows it is necessary).

Job 26:13
13  By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.

I can't find right now where Ray talks about this, but he points out that it is God's spirit which garnished the heavens, suggesting intimacy.  But it is his hand which forms the serpent, suggesting he forms it at arms length, away from his heart.  I thought this was cool.

Peace,
Diana

mrsnacks:
Thanks for all your comments.

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