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Deborah-Leigh:
Excellent addition Kat to building up the body!

Your translations show that Christ will VOMIT out lukewarmness! I believe we too should have the same mind as Christ! HE went beyond what is comfortable and we are to follow. It is a cross to carry! It is easier to be popular and liked and approved of man rather than rejected and scourged by words of persecution and thoughts of ridicule. This is surely the way to go to follow Christ via what He Himself suffered.

Your selection of Scripture made me think again about the meaning of Wisdom. Proverbs 12 : 8 A man shall be commended according to his Wisdom, Godly Wisdom WHICH IS COMPREHENSIVE INSIGHT INTO THE WAYS AND PURPOSES OF GOD....

We know that God's ways are to "know how to distinguish between good and evil" Gen 3 : 22 those two little words, "know how"  carry a life time program in learning just HOW to KNOW HOW!  :D   :D Knowing God is Sovereign and His purpose is to create Sons and Daughters in His image, is a life time process of learning through the faith of Christ and His Mercy and Grace. A painful path leading to great joy.

Here in BT I believe we are learning Wisdom and in the Forum we are in training and preparation for His return.

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

Kat:

Hi Arcturus,


--- Quote --- It is easier to be popular and liked and approved of man rather than rejected and scourged by words of persecution and thoughts of ridicule. This is surely the way to go to follow Christ via what He Himself suffered
--- End quote ---

I am working on the 7B audio transcript, hope to have it up in a day or so.  It is a real eye opener into just what Christ really did suffer  :o  The churches do not have a clue who the real Jesus is.  I never heard this Jesus taught to any degree.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

Deborah-Leigh:

That transcript will be very valuable to those who can not down load the Audios. Something to really look forward to as it unravels the myth of Jesus being that good looking fellow from out of heaven that Hollywood has portrayed and that Babylon has not corrected!

It is always great to get the truth in black and white.  :D

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

seminole:
Back to something Arcturus asked, I have been hurt by rules from time to time. I don't believe that gives me the right to disrespect anyone.
Nole

hillsbororiver:
Hi Everyone,

I came across this old e-mail to Ray while looking through the archives, I think he sums up the thoughts behind some of his responses to scoffers very well. Since I have had the pleasure of conversing (even asking challenging questions) with him and socializing with Ray and his wife I know what he says in this response is true. He is a fun person to be around with a generous and easy going nature, Ray has a very quick wit and an empathetic/sympathetic spirit to those who come in contact with him, not just those who agree with his articles but those everyday folks who come and go in all of our lives.

When someone spews out hateful, heretical words claiming God is their inspiration he is ready to challenge and correct in no uncertain terms.

But if you are paying attention to the way in which an argument or challenge is presented, if the tone is sincere the answer will be gentle and instructive if the question is strident, condemning and accusational they will receive a rebuke that will grab them by the shoulders and get their attention. That to me is more loving than soft, insincere and lukewarm (thank you Arcturus) answers made to make oneself appear compassionate at the expense of God's wonderful Truths.

 



 Gentle
« on: May 17, 2006, 11:33:09 AM »   

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My name is Megan, and I happened upon your website doing some research (just for my own personal knowledge, not anything in particular). I was immediately curious and started to read, I then became upset with the undertones of your attitude to those who oppose your beliefs and asked you questions. You seemed in disregard to them and expressed a pious attitude toward them. There were several letters you posted in which the person (who disagreed with you, then asked a question) did not seem at all contemptuous and YOUR reply was the one with sarcastic comments and rude undertones. I am not disagreeing or agreeing with you, as I am not God. I cannot tell you much, except that as many people are on this earth are the number of ways the Bible can be interpreted. I personally don't believe that people should get s o caught up in the context of everything and trying to analyze it all according to the words of another person, but to read the Bible for themselves and discover their own personal meaning and truth. I don't want for this email to sound mean or rude in any way, I am glad that you take the time to express to people your beliefs and thoughts on God and the Bible. Its good to get people interested in God and the Bible, but please don't lose focus, instead of being condescending maybe you could use a more gentle less sarcastic approach to bring people to God. After all, as Christians, we are supposed to be an example to those who look at us. And show people how a Christian should act.
Thank you for having your website available.
Sincerely,
Megan


Dear Megan: Thank you for your email and comments. Might I suggest that you read my paper: "YOU FOOLS! YOU HYPOCRITES! YOU SNAKES!" at the tope of my home page. I guarantee you that you will never look at the Bible or Jesus Christ the same way again. And you might decide after reading what Jesus REALLY said to the Church leaders and clergymen of His, that you need to correct Jesus and His manner of teaching as well.

Just how many of those two-faced lying, deceiving, cut-throat, whited-sepulchres and hypocritical snakes in Matt. 23 do you suppose Jesus converted over to His way.  Maybe you will think too that Jesus needed to be a little more "gentle?"  People find it impossible to believe that one can speak the Truth as Jesus did and yet love the charlatans they are exposing.  Some people think that I am angry and bitter. They need to spend a few years around me, twenty-four hours a day, and learn to laugh and smile a little.  My closest friends have known few people in their lives who laugh more than I do. Maybe you are confusing "exposing damnable heresy" with "hating people."  I do not hate people, but I do expose the damnable heresy of the lying hypocrites that promote it.  Is that wrong? Does that offend you?  Read my paper................

God be with you,

Ray

PS   Write me back after you read the paper, okay?  Thanks! 
 

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