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Aionios
seminole:
Makes more sense to me than all the greek and hebrew stuff I've read about.
Nole
Kat:
Hi Matt,
--- Quote ---That's a microscopic view. On a grand scale I see this Aionios/Eonian debate much the same way. Age after age, time continues. When one age ends another begins, thus time doesn't stop, and furthers toward "eternity".
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You have a good way a putting things :)
I thought this was a good repersentation of how the ages go forward. It is good to have all these perspectives, sometimes that's what is needed to get to a full understanding.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
Evan600:
--- Quote from: jackson on June 06, 2007, 09:16:40 AM ---I'm having trouble expaining this concisely. I found myself having a discussion on "eternity" the other day with a co-worker and I just don't feal that he left that conversation with a good idea of what point I was trying to make. He was very open to the idea of universal salvation but I'm sure I didn't do him justice with my explaination. I need to tell it in 25 words or less ;D :D ;D.
I think he understood my refutations of Chistianitys "eternal damnation" theory, but talking about eternal (aionios) life is where he became confused. "What does it mean to have life for only a period of time?",he asked. Well my answer only confounded him...Does anybody else ever get those "so you think your'e holyer than thou" looks if you even mention the "elect"?
Love a little help.
Jackson
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It sure is difficult to talk to people so much of the time! I spoke with someone today that is sooo into church. She lived in Nashville for a time, and I told her I just went there a couple weeks ago. She asked me why, and I told her a bible conference. Then, she started telling me how her ex was not into church. Then I had to explain how I don't go to church because she asked. LOL
Anyway, it's almost like where do you start. There are so many false doctrines. I gave a list, and I think that I overwhelmed her. She does want to have a bible study sometime though. She seems open, sort of.
When I talk to someone about the Elect, I try not to imply that I am the Elect. I try to place myself as an equal with them. I try to not focus on 'somebody else,' but on 'us.' Does that make sense? It's all basically 'energy sensitivity.'
As far as aionios goes, first I say that there was never the word 'eternity' in the Greek or Hebrew. Then, kind of like what you did. I think Matt put it a good way ;)
God bless!!
jerreye:
Hi Matt, perhaps I misread you, but when you say:
That's a microscopic view. On a grand scale I see this Aionios/Eonian debate much the same way. Age after age, time continues. When one age ends another begins, thus time doesn't stop, and furthers toward "eternity".
...do you beleive that there will bo no conclusion of all ages? In other words, do you believe that there will ALWAYS be "ages" (endless amount of ages), for all eternity?
Chris R:
--- Quote from: jackson on June 06, 2007, 09:16:40 AM ---...Does anybody else ever get those "so you think your'e holyer than thou" looks if you even mention the "elect"?
Love a little help.
Jackson
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Always remember that it is God that does the choosing, Having knowledge of some truths do not qualify anyone, it is a process, Even the Apostle Paul knew this was beyond his control. [1Cor 9:27]
But I keep under my body, and bring [it] into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
Peace
Chris R
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